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I can see why you might be interested in medicine now Rob (or should I say Robin! ). The charity work looks really worthwhile. What exactly was your involvement? Did your visit to Nepal last year have any connections with this?



Annie

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Oh yes, our current project....



http://www.tech.port.ac.uk/projectdengke/

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Annie



Yes I have been to 'third world' countries, well tibet at least, perhaps also less developed parts of china. Website of the charity I am involved with is,



http://www.charitynet.org/~care+share/



I never really liked the name of the charity, however it's heart is in the right place. There are certainly alot of things to do in that part of the world.



Rob.

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I use Lifestyle too and it's quite good. The slices could do with being a bit bigger though. It's like eating children's food!



The missions around the world sound exciting, Rob. Have you been to any third world countries? Harvey's got this nagging feeling that he might be working in Africa one day. From someone who's never lived outside of Plymouth I think we'll have to, very definately, take it one step at a time. I'm still getting used to the notion that I might one day be a vicar's wife.



Yes, I do attend church - I'm their webmistress as one of the other web sites that I built and run is our church site, http://go.to/St.Edwards, and Sam, our son, has his own site for kids, www.kids4christ.freeserve.co.uk.



Annie

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Annie



Sorry, I meant lifestyle not freestyle.



I remember reading somewhere on the web that you are active in the church. (so am i to some extent.) So I guess it is no suprise that Harvey is that way inclined. Personally I dont feel called that way - tho I have been on several missions around the world.



Rob.


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Rob,



Harvey's doing a theology diploma plus ministerial training. He too, had a long, drawn out procedure to get through before he was accepted. He has university lectures in Exeter every Wednesday evening and goes away for residential weekends once a month and Easter school for the ministerial training bit. He also has to fit in meetings with personal and staff tutors and do work for them. Needless to say, he's nearly always got his head in a book or tapping away on the laptop.



He's very good verbally but struggles with the essay writing at times. His job is as a structural technician and he also has a background in mechanical engineering which is a little different to what's being asked of him now.



Have you decided to make a career in medicine if you get through?



Bit of a bummer about the bread. I've not heard of freestyle. Is it produced by a supermarket?



Bye for now.



Annie

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Annie



Remind again me what course harvey is doing?



I havent even started my studies - very long entrance proceedure to do medicine. First off I had to do an entrance exam, which I think I might have just scrapped through. Very hard exam because 50% of it is on english language comprehension and very quick essay writing on an abstract subject (the latter is where I fall down a bit.) Now comes the formal application proceedure, so the course will either start in jan 2004 or july 2004 - depending on what options i take.



Yes, I think supermarkets have some confusion over shelfing of GF bits. But at least they have some range now - better than a year ago. Some of it even tastes good to. My error was that there were two identical looking loafs in the freezer - I didnt know that Ellen had put hers in there so got the wrong one. She felt awful after that - but thankfully no harm done (I hope.)



Yes, I guess that immonogloblin has a fairly long lifespan before it is recycled or removed from the body.



Rob.




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Don't you just hate it when they bunch gf food with organic, etc. I was saying this only the other day when I was shopping in Asda with Harvey. Their Free From range has improved but you've got to be so careful that you pick up the right thing. They should have shelves labelled gf, organic, etc.



I think possibly with CD, like with DH, the longer you're on the gf diet it might take more times of exposure to gluten before a reaction occurs. For example, I get less problems around my menstrual cycle the longer I'm gf (note I haven't eaten gluten to my knowledge but the symptoms are declining all the time).



Of course, you're right - this isn't to say that intestinal damage isn't taking place still. My doctor said that one tiny bit of gluten can stay in the system for up to 12 months.



How are your studies going, Rob? Harvey's nearly at the end of his first year and it's been a bit of a long slog. Only two more years to go, she says cautiously!



Cheers.



Annie

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Annie



At the weekend I made a very big mistake - I mistook a sainsbury organic loaf for a freestyle GF loaf in the freezer and had 7 slices. Packaging almost identical. Thought it tasted to good. (My rule of thumb with GF foods is that if it tastes good - it cant be GF!)



Well the upshot of it all is that, 4 days on, I havent had any symptoms. My feeling is that it is concurrent with my theory about the immune system. I have been on the GF diet pretty strictly for a few years, I know that my IGA/IGG levels are relatively low now, so there isnt much immunogloblin to attach the gliadin - hence no reaction. For those of you who are thinking "Cured - can eat normally again" - well hard luck. The cells that produce the immunogloblin still remember how to, so I would be fully recharged with immonogloblin within a week. (ie if I tried this week to repeat my mistake I'm sure I would have a major bowel reaction because of the recharge!)



Note that for most coeliacs, just 1 square cm of ordinary bread causes a reaction.



Still early days on the DH symptoms tho - none yet.



Rob.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Big Mistake


Annie



No, Nepal was just a 'holiday' (not the best one as i feel out with the girls i was supposed to be escorting [to satisfy their family's worries about them travelling alone].....very complicated)



Medicine is kind of a hobby. (actually both of the girls in nepal are doctors, which explains alot as they are over assertive.)



Only my mother ever calls me Robin............



My involvement with Project Dengke was originally supposed to be technical support, computing, communications, etc. But in reality I have better skills keeping the peace. These trips tend to be for over a month and christians are often an opinionated bunch - which always leads to friction when you are cramped up together in a small village, or in the same bus for a week long journey. Also most westerners have servere culture shock when they come on our trips - it is 'that' foreign. Different food, hot and humid, very poor sanitation, but most difficultly the people are different in many ways. Most lead just a simple existance, happy, but there are alot of people who are only after your money - change deals - skeam - sharp operators. That is what winds alot of people up as they are simply not use to how much of it goes on there. In the UK we are so lucky to have shops where you know exactly the price that you are going to pay - it's on the ticket. But over there - its just not that simple...!



Oh, the two girls i went to nepal with though they had a hard existence there - so got grouchy because of it - boy, they had it light!



Ah yes, Prof Mel Richardson on the web site I pointed out is a friend of mine. That is how I got involved. I use to do multimedia/technology mission seminars with him for the Saltmine Trust up in the West Midlands.



Rob.

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I can see why you might be interested in medicine now Rob (or should I say Robin! ). The charity work looks really worthwhile. What exactly was your involvement? Did your visit to Nepal last year have any connections with this?



Annie

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

Replying to:


Oh yes, our current project....



http://www.tech.port.ac.uk/projectdengke/

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Replying to:


Annie



Yes I have been to 'third world' countries, well tibet at least, perhaps also less developed parts of china. Website of the charity I am involved with is,



http://www.charitynet.org/~care+share/



I never really liked the name of the charity, however it's heart is in the right place. There are certainly alot of things to do in that part of the world.



Rob.

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I use Lifestyle too and it's quite good. The slices could do with being a bit bigger though. It's like eating children's food!



The missions around the world sound exciting, Rob. Have you been to any third world countries? Harvey's got this nagging feeling that he might be working in Africa one day. From someone who's never lived outside of Plymouth I think we'll have to, very definately, take it one step at a time. I'm still getting used to the notion that I might one day be a vicar's wife.



Yes, I do attend church - I'm their webmistress as one of the other web sites that I built and run is our church site, http://go.to/St.Edwards, and Sam, our son, has his own site for kids, www.kids4christ.freeserve.co.uk.



Annie

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Annie



Sorry, I meant lifestyle not freestyle.



I remember reading somewhere on the web that you are active in the church. (so am i to some extent.) So I guess it is no suprise that Harvey is that way inclined. Personally I dont feel called that way - tho I have been on several missions around the world.



Rob.


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Rob,



Harvey's doing a theology diploma plus ministerial training. He too, had a long, drawn out procedure to get through before he was accepted. He has university lectures in Exeter every Wednesday evening and goes away for residential weekends once a month and Easter school for the ministerial training bit. He also has to fit in meetings with personal and staff tutors and do work for them. Needless to say, he's nearly always got his head in a book or tapping away on the laptop.



He's very good verbally but struggles with the essay writing at times. His job is as a structural technician and he also has a background in mechanical engineering which is a little different to what's being asked of him now.



Have you decided to make a career in medicine if you get through?



Bit of a bummer about the bread. I've not heard of freestyle. Is it produced by a supermarket?



Bye for now.



Annie

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Annie



Remind again me what course harvey is doing?



I havent even started my studies - very long entrance proceedure to do medicine. First off I had to do an entrance exam, which I think I might have just scrapped through. Very hard exam because 50% of it is on english language comprehension and very quick essay writing on an abstract subject (the latter is where I fall down a bit.) Now comes the formal application proceedure, so the course will either start in jan 2004 or july 2004 - depending on what options i take.



Yes, I think supermarkets have some confusion over shelfing of GF bits. But at least they have some range now - better than a year ago. Some of it even tastes good to. My error was that there were two identical looking loafs in the freezer - I didnt know that Ellen had put hers in there so got the wrong one. She felt awful after that - but thankfully no harm done (I hope.)



Yes, I guess that immonogloblin has a fairly long lifespan before it is recycled or removed from the body.



Rob.




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Don't you just hate it when they bunch gf food with organic, etc. I was saying this only the other day when I was shopping in Asda with Harvey. Their Free From range has improved but you've got to be so careful that you pick up the right thing. They should have shelves labelled gf, organic, etc.



I think possibly with CD, like with DH, the longer you're on the gf diet it might take more times of exposure to gluten before a reaction occurs. For example, I get less problems around my menstrual cycle the longer I'm gf (note I haven't eaten gluten to my knowledge but the symptoms are declining all the time).



Of course, you're right - this isn't to say that intestinal damage isn't taking place still. My doctor said that one tiny bit of gluten can stay in the system for up to 12 months.



How are your studies going, Rob? Harvey's nearly at the end of his first year and it's been a bit of a long slog. Only two more years to go, she says cautiously!



Cheers.



Annie

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Annie



At the weekend I made a very big mistake - I mistook a sainsbury organic loaf for a freestyle GF loaf in the freezer and had 7 slices. Packaging almost identical. Thought it tasted to good. (My rule of thumb with GF foods is that if it tastes good - it cant be GF!)



Well the upshot of it all is that, 4 days on, I havent had any symptoms. My feeling is that it is concurrent with my theory about the immune system. I have been on the GF diet pretty strictly for a few years, I know that my IGA/IGG levels are relatively low now, so there isnt much immunogloblin to attach the gliadin - hence no reaction. For those of you who are thinking "Cured - can eat normally again" - well hard luck. The cells that produce the immunogloblin still remember how to, so I would be fully recharged with immonogloblin within a week. (ie if I tried this week to repeat my mistake I'm sure I would have a major bowel reaction because of the recharge!)



Note that for most coeliacs, just 1 square cm of ordinary bread causes a reaction.



Still early days on the DH symptoms tho - none yet.



Rob.

Eating abroad


Rob,



How difficult is it trying to keep gluten-free in these countries? Presumably there are a lot of rice dishes which would be OK and I imagine the food is not predominantly processed.



I know what you mean about families using your proper name. My mum, dad, brothers, long-standing friends, etc. still call me Anne even though I've been using Annie since I was about 18. The other day I bumped into the drummer of the band I used to sing with in my teens and early 20's. I hadn't seen him in about 10-15 years and he called me Anne when he said goodbye. It seemed quite wierd. Where did my youth go?



Annie

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Annie



No, Nepal was just a 'holiday' (not the best one as i feel out with the girls i was supposed to be escorting [to satisfy their family's worries about them travelling alone].....very complicated)



Medicine is kind of a hobby. (actually both of the girls in nepal are doctors, which explains alot as they are over assertive.)



Only my mother ever calls me Robin............



My involvement with Project Dengke was originally supposed to be technical support, computing, communications, etc. But in reality I have better skills keeping the peace. These trips tend to be for over a month and christians are often an opinionated bunch - which always leads to friction when you are cramped up together in a small village, or in the same bus for a week long journey. Also most westerners have servere culture shock when they come on our trips - it is 'that' foreign. Different food, hot and humid, very poor sanitation, but most difficultly the people are different in many ways. Most lead just a simple existance, happy, but there are alot of people who are only after your money - change deals - skeam - sharp operators. That is what winds alot of people up as they are simply not use to how much of it goes on there. In the UK we are so lucky to have shops where you know exactly the price that you are going to pay - it's on the ticket. But over there - its just not that simple...!



Oh, the two girls i went to nepal with though they had a hard existence there - so got grouchy because of it - boy, they had it light!



Ah yes, Prof Mel Richardson on the web site I pointed out is a friend of mine. That is how I got involved. I use to do multimedia/technology mission seminars with him for the Saltmine Trust up in the West Midlands.



Rob.

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I can see why you might be interested in medicine now Rob (or should I say Robin! ). The charity work looks really worthwhile. What exactly was your involvement? Did your visit to Nepal last year have any connections with this?



Annie

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

Replying to:


Oh yes, our current project....



http://www.tech.port.ac.uk/projectdengke/

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

Replying to:


Annie



Yes I have been to 'third world' countries, well tibet at least, perhaps also less developed parts of china. Website of the charity I am involved with is,



http://www.charitynet.org/~care+share/



I never really liked the name of the charity, however it's heart is in the right place. There are certainly alot of things to do in that part of the world.



Rob.

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I use Lifestyle too and it's quite good. The slices could do with being a bit bigger though. It's like eating children's food!



The missions around the world sound exciting, Rob. Have you been to any third world countries? Harvey's got this nagging feeling that he might be working in Africa one day. From someone who's never lived outside of Plymouth I think we'll have to, very definately, take it one step at a time. I'm still getting used to the notion that I might one day be a vicar's wife.



Yes, I do attend church - I'm their webmistress as one of the other web sites that I built and run is our church site, http://go.to/St.Edwards, and Sam, our son, has his own site for kids, www.kids4christ.freeserve.co.uk.



Annie

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Replying to:


Annie



Sorry, I meant lifestyle not freestyle.



I remember reading somewhere on the web that you are active in the church. (so am i to some extent.) So I guess it is no suprise that Harvey is that way inclined. Personally I dont feel called that way - tho I have been on several missions around the world.



Rob.


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Replying to:


Rob,



Harvey's doing a theology diploma plus ministerial training. He too, had a long, drawn out procedure to get through before he was accepted. He has university lectures in Exeter every Wednesday evening and goes away for residential weekends once a month and Easter school for the ministerial training bit. He also has to fit in meetings with personal and staff tutors and do work for them. Needless to say, he's nearly always got his head in a book or tapping away on the laptop.



He's very good verbally but struggles with the essay writing at times. His job is as a structural technician and he also has a background in mechanical engineering which is a little different to what's being asked of him now.



Have you decided to make a career in medicine if you get through?



Bit of a bummer about the bread. I've not heard of freestyle. Is it produced by a supermarket?



Bye for now.



Annie

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Replying to:


Annie



Remind again me what course harvey is doing?



I havent even started my studies - very long entrance proceedure to do medicine. First off I had to do an entrance exam, which I think I might have just scrapped through. Very hard exam because 50% of it is on english language comprehension and very quick essay writing on an abstract subject (the latter is where I fall down a bit.) Now comes the formal application proceedure, so the course will either start in jan 2004 or july 2004 - depending on what options i take.



Yes, I think supermarkets have some confusion over shelfing of GF bits. But at least they have some range now - better than a year ago. Some of it even tastes good to. My error was that there were two identical looking loafs in the freezer - I didnt know that Ellen had put hers in there so got the wrong one. She felt awful after that - but thankfully no harm done (I hope.)



Yes, I guess that immonogloblin has a fairly long lifespan before it is recycled or removed from the body.



Rob.




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Don't you just hate it when they bunch gf food with organic, etc. I was saying this only the other day when I was shopping in Asda with Harvey. Their Free From range has improved but you've got to be so careful that you pick up the right thing. They should have shelves labelled gf, organic, etc.



I think possibly with CD, like with DH, the longer you're on the gf diet it might take more times of exposure to gluten before a reaction occurs. For example, I get less problems around my menstrual cycle the longer I'm gf (note I haven't eaten gluten to my knowledge but the symptoms are declining all the time).



Of course, you're right - this isn't to say that intestinal damage isn't taking place still. My doctor said that one tiny bit of gluten can stay in the system for up to 12 months.



How are your studies going, Rob? Harvey's nearly at the end of his first year and it's been a bit of a long slog. Only two more years to go, she says cautiously!



Cheers.



Annie

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Replying to:

Annie



At the weekend I made a very big mistake - I mistook a sainsbury organic loaf for a freestyle GF loaf in the freezer and had 7 slices. Packaging almost identical. Thought it tasted to good. (My rule of thumb with GF foods is that if it tastes good - it cant be GF!)



Well the upshot of it all is that, 4 days on, I havent had any symptoms. My feeling is that it is concurrent with my theory about the immune system. I have been on the GF diet pretty strictly for a few years, I know that my IGA/IGG levels are relatively low now, so there isnt much immunogloblin to attach the gliadin - hence no reaction. For those of you who are thinking "Cured - can eat normally again" - well hard luck. The cells that produce the immunogloblin still remember how to, so I would be fully recharged with immonogloblin within a week. (ie if I tried this week to repeat my mistake I'm sure I would have a major bowel reaction because of the recharge!)



Note that for most coeliacs, just 1 square cm of ordinary bread causes a reaction.



Still early days on the DH symptoms tho - none yet.



Rob.

Re: Eating abroad


Annie



I dont find it too difficult abroad, I tend to eat alot of chips, fruit and vedge, peanuts, ... lots of unhealthy things. Actually I do find it challenging, but nothing I cant deal with. Usually it is the people I am with who find it far more challenging to their ideals - they have difficulty beleiving that I want to eat what I eat.



If you look on that web site I suggested you will find a link to china's most famous (very) heavy rock band. My friend Mel bumped into them at chengdu airport with his chinese friend (an interpreter) screaming in suprise at seeing their idols. So he went straight up to them and perswaded them to come to the UK to do a tour for our charity. They were headliners at the London Chinatown New Year Celebrations a few years back.



http://www.tech.port.ac.uk/projectdengke/song.html



In true heavy rock band style - this one is a rare one off ballad!



Oh yes, when they stayed with us in loughborough, I became a groupy for a week!



Rob

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Rob,



How difficult is it trying to keep gluten-free in these countries? Presumably there are a lot of rice dishes which would be OK and I imagine the food is not predominantly processed.



I know what you mean about families using your proper name. My mum, dad, brothers, long-standing friends, etc. still call me Anne even though I've been using Annie since I was about 18. The other day I bumped into the drummer of the band I used to sing with in my teens and early 20's. I hadn't seen him in about 10-15 years and he called me Anne when he said goodbye. It seemed quite wierd. Where did my youth go?



Annie

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Annie



No, Nepal was just a 'holiday' (not the best one as i feel out with the girls i was supposed to be escorting [to satisfy their family's worries about them travelling alone].....very complicated)



Medicine is kind of a hobby. (actually both of the girls in nepal are doctors, which explains alot as they are over assertive.)



Only my mother ever calls me Robin............



My involvement with Project Dengke was originally supposed to be technical support, computing, communications, etc. But in reality I have better skills keeping the peace. These trips tend to be for over a month and christians are often an opinionated bunch - which always leads to friction when you are cramped up together in a small village, or in the same bus for a week long journey. Also most westerners have servere culture shock when they come on our trips - it is 'that' foreign. Different food, hot and humid, very poor sanitation, but most difficultly the people are different in many ways. Most lead just a simple existance, happy, but there are alot of people who are only after your money - change deals - skeam - sharp operators. That is what winds alot of people up as they are simply not use to how much of it goes on there. In the UK we are so lucky to have shops where you know exactly the price that you are going to pay - it's on the ticket. But over there - its just not that simple...!



Oh, the two girls i went to nepal with though they had a hard existence there - so got grouchy because of it - boy, they had it light!



Ah yes, Prof Mel Richardson on the web site I pointed out is a friend of mine. That is how I got involved. I use to do multimedia/technology mission seminars with him for the Saltmine Trust up in the West Midlands.



Rob.

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I can see why you might be interested in medicine now Rob (or should I say Robin! ). The charity work looks really worthwhile. What exactly was your involvement? Did your visit to Nepal last year have any connections with this?



Annie

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Replying to:


Oh yes, our current project....



http://www.tech.port.ac.uk/projectdengke/

--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---

Replying to:


Annie



Yes I have been to 'third world' countries, well tibet at least, perhaps also less developed parts of china. Website of the charity I am involved with is,



http://www.charitynet.org/~care+share/



I never really liked the name of the charity, however it's heart is in the right place. There are certainly alot of things to do in that part of the world.



Rob.

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I use Lifestyle too and it's quite good. The slices could do with being a bit bigger though. It's like eating children's food!



The missions around the world sound exciting, Rob. Have you been to any third world countries? Harvey's got this nagging feeling that he might be working in Africa one day. From someone who's never lived outside of Plymouth I think we'll have to, very definately, take it one step at a time. I'm still getting used to the notion that I might one day be a vicar's wife.



Yes, I do attend church - I'm their webmistress as one of the other web sites that I built and run is our church site, http://go.to/St.Edwards, and Sam, our son, has his own site for kids, www.kids4christ.freeserve.co.uk.



Annie

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Annie



Sorry, I meant lifestyle not freestyle.



I remember reading somewhere on the web that you are active in the church. (so am i to some extent.) So I guess it is no suprise that Harvey is that way inclined. Personally I dont feel called that way - tho I have been on several missions around the world.



Rob.


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Replying to:


Rob,



Harvey's doing a theology diploma plus ministerial training. He too, had a long, drawn out procedure to get through before he was accepted. He has university lectures in Exeter every Wednesday evening and goes away for residential weekends once a month and Easter school for the ministerial training bit. He also has to fit in meetings with personal and staff tutors and do work for them. Needless to say, he's nearly always got his head in a book or tapping away on the laptop.



He's very good verbally but struggles with the essay writing at times. His job is as a structural technician and he also has a background in mechanical engineering which is a little different to what's being asked of him now.



Have you decided to make a career in medicine if you get through?



Bit of a bummer about the bread. I've not heard of freestyle. Is it produced by a supermarket?



Bye for now.



Annie

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Replying to:


Annie



Remind again me what course harvey is doing?



I havent even started my studies - very long entrance proceedure to do medicine. First off I had to do an entrance exam, which I think I might have just scrapped through. Very hard exam because 50% of it is on english language comprehension and very quick essay writing on an abstract subject (the latter is where I fall down a bit.) Now comes the formal application proceedure, so the course will either start in jan 2004 or july 2004 - depending on what options i take.



Yes, I think supermarkets have some confusion over shelfing of GF bits. But at least they have some range now - better than a year ago. Some of it even tastes good to. My error was that there were two identical looking loafs in the freezer - I didnt know that Ellen had put hers in there so got the wrong one. She felt awful after that - but thankfully no harm done (I hope.)



Yes, I guess that immonogloblin has a fairly long lifespan before it is recycled or removed from the body.



Rob.




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Don't you just hate it when they bunch gf food with organic, etc. I was saying this only the other day when I was shopping in Asda with Harvey. Their Free From range has improved but you've got to be so careful that you pick up the right thing. They should have shelves labelled gf, organic, etc.



I think possibly with CD, like with DH, the longer you're on the gf diet it might take more times of exposure to gluten before a reaction occurs. For example, I get less problems around my menstrual cycle the longer I'm gf (note I haven't eaten gluten to my knowledge but the symptoms are declining all the time).



Of course, you're right - this isn't to say that intestinal damage isn't taking place still. My doctor said that one tiny bit of gluten can stay in the system for up to 12 months.



How are your studies going, Rob? Harvey's nearly at the end of his first year and it's been a bit of a long slog. Only two more years to go, she says cautiously!



Cheers.



Annie

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Replying to:

Annie



At the weekend I made a very big mistake - I mistook a sainsbury organic loaf for a freestyle GF loaf in the freezer and had 7 slices. Packaging almost identical. Thought it tasted to good. (My rule of thumb with GF foods is that if it tastes good - it cant be GF!)



Well the upshot of it all is that, 4 days on, I havent had any symptoms. My feeling is that it is concurrent with my theory about the immune system. I have been on the GF diet pretty strictly for a few years, I know that my IGA/IGG levels are relatively low now, so there isnt much immunogloblin to attach the gliadin - hence no reaction. For those of you who are thinking "Cured - can eat normally again" - well hard luck. The cells that produce the immunogloblin still remember how to, so I would be fully recharged with immonogloblin within a week. (ie if I tried this week to repeat my mistake I'm sure I would have a major bowel reaction because of the recharge!)



Note that for most coeliacs, just 1 square cm of ordinary bread causes a reaction.



Still early days on the DH symptoms tho - none yet.



Rob.


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