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3-10-2011

I had this dream one day following a very emotional incident while visiting my mother in Kansas.

I was asked if I was interested in being included in an opportunity to meet someone called the (bow-da-vee-sta) Bhodavista (? I may have heard this term before but not certain). I accepted the offer and found myself in some sort of reception area with many other people. Everyone was very quiet and we had all been told we were to line up. We had been given our position number in the line. I was about number seven or eight in line. You could feel the expectation in the air and could tell that everyone really wanted to be the one to receive this gift.

While standing in line I felt very calm. I looked down and noticed that I was wearing a very long, white gown. From the waist down it reminded me of a ‘Cinderella’ dress. It was snow white and was covered in rectangular shiny objects that reflected light; like mirrors. It was very ornate and beautiful. It was like a wedding gown.

While standing in line there was a woman who was trying to get in line ahead of the people at the beginning of the line. Somehow I knew that I was being instructed to quietly go to her and tell her to go back to her assigned position. I had to approach her twice. I did this very quietly and without feeling at all upset; in fact I felt quite neutral. She eventually walked away to what I understood to be her place in line. Everyone remained very quiet and orderly.

Next thing I know I am escorted into a room that resembled a theater. I was seated in one of the front rows and understood somehow that I was seated amongst some sort of royal family. Everyone appeared to be of Eastern Indian or Asian descent. They were all dressed in very colorful clothing; very Indian or Asian in design.

I was then given some 8x12 pictures that were hand drawn. The pictures, I was told, had been drawn by the women who had given birth to the royal babies. The pictures were drawn to represent each child. As I went thru the pictures they were all objects in nature. One was of trees, one of a lake, one of mountains, and so on. On some level I understood that the children were spiritual representations of the spirits of the lake, or the trees, or the mountains, or whatever it was they were depicted as in the pictures.

While I was looking at the pictures there were actors on the stage performing a play. I did not have an opportunity to watch as I was quickly escorted away to a place beside a huge pond. All of the people who had previously been in line with me had surrounded the pond and were now watching me as I was guided toward the water.

Throughout the dream I was not spoken to in audible words, it was all done mentally. I just ‘heard’ it in my head. When I was standing next to the water I was asked if I wanted to accept the privilege of entering the water to stir up the Bhodavista. I was told he had selected me for this honor. Without hesitation I walked into the water. The bottom was covered in some sort of mud, but it was clean mud, not mucky or discolored.

Once in the water I was directed towards a particular spot and instructed to use my hands to stir the water. As I stirred the water I saw a masculine head begin to appear. As I continued to stir the water the face popped above the surface. It was a kind and very handsome face with a huge smile and it was looking directly at me. Soon I could see a torso; however I noticed there were no legs.

The arms outstretched towards me and I was drawn into them. I lay down in the water and was cradled in his arms. My arms wrapped around him as well. I realized that my clothing was gone and we were touching skin to skin. I was aware that the others around the pond were watching us, but this was unimportant to me as I was strongly drawn to look into his eyes.

As if by magic, we began to move thru the water as he held me closely in his arms our eyes never leaving one another. As we moved thru the water we made a twirling motion, one of us was on top and then as we twirled around the other moved to the top. This was all very gentle motion and I had no trouble breathing while under the water. I was still aware that the torso seemed to end where there should have been legs. I remember thinking he must be ‘spirit-like’ rather than human especially since we were moving and twirling gently thru the water without visible means of propulsion.

This act of holding and being held was not sexual in nature, but was highly spiritual. I was told we were mating, becoming one.

Soon this came to an end and we were helped by his aids out of the water. He was wrapped in a robe and led away towards the entrance to a beautiful, ornate building. I noticed he now had legs where there had been none. He did not turn back to look at me as he walked away. I was wrapped in a huge white towel or blanket and left standing there beside the water. I thought I should find my clothing and tried to move off to search for them. Those surrounding the pond moved towards me and were reaching out to touch me so I was unable to move forward. I was aware that everyone wanted to touch me so I allowed this. This is where the dream ended.

After waking in the morning I reviewed the dream in every detail so that I would not forget. The dream had been very spiritual in nature and I was very calm when I woke. As I moved thru the day I realized that for some time everything seemed to be in very sharp focus and colors appeared to be very vivid. As the day went on I noticed these feeling and observations left me as I became involved in chores.

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Kathy,
My time is short this morning but let me begin with an interpretation and give you something to think about. I will try to finish later today or in the morning. I apologize for not giving a full interpretation but being self employed I have so much on my plate this time of year.

Could the word you are looking for be 'Bodhisattva' {the name given to anyone who, motivated by great compassion, has generated bodhichitta, which is a spontaneous wish to attain Buddhahood}? This would represent your own higher self, a gift that is attainable when one is searching for enlightenment, especially geared to spirituality. This is the pure Self {white dress}. You want to be married to this specific identity, the higher self.

Cinderella may be a 'shadow' aspect. That true self that is 'bottled up', needing to let the real person out. That beautiful person inside needs to be let out. Instead of giving in to the emotional self, a negative aspect {Cinderella's mother, your mother?}, you wish to be that person seeking Bodhisattva. Because of the personal and negative emotional experience with your mother there may have been a deeper aspect stimulated which would best describe your true self. Is this the person you really are and when in an emotional event you find it hard to cope with the negative emotions?

The people in your dream are symbolic of other aspects of yourself. Putting the higher self in front of all the other aspects.

The dream does seem to be addressing the actual experiences with your mother and how you reacted, or should have reacted to the event.
Somehow I knew that I was being instructed to quietly go to her and tell her to go back to her assigned position. I had to approach her twice. I did this very quietly and without feeling at all upset; in fact I felt quite neutral. She eventually walked away to what I understood to be her place in line. Everyone remained very quiet and orderly.

Does your mother tend to bring out the opposite affect to the calmness described above? Are you usually a calm person who doesn't easily let out your emotions? Does you mother expect you to 'stay in place', to be quite and let her control the conversation?

I'll end here. I will need quality time to fully investigate teh dream and give a proper interpretation. There does seem to be a spiritual aspect to the dream {as mentioned later in the dream}. But other aspects are also involved and sorting through those is important if I am to provide an accurate interpretation.

Jerry

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Yes, that indeed could have been the word I heard in the dream. I think I possibly have heard it before but was not aware of the meaning.......I believe you have shed some good insights into the dream as far as you have gone with it. Your words ring true and I am going to reflect upon your ideas as I wait to hear for the rest of the dream. Thank you for taking the time to do this. It seemed to be a very important dream for me and although I usually have an idea what my dreams are telling me.....this one had me stumped. I will look forward to hearing more from you.

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Kathy,
I am reviewing your dream as time allows. Being a long dream requires a lot of examination. But I do sense it is addressing two different issues in your life, two very important issues.

One would be the 'Cinderella' relationship with your mother. Are you expected to 'stay in your place' in some aspect with her? Does she expect you to be of 'royalty', her own position in life being one of either expecting the better things in life or actually possessing them? Have you recently had realizations about this relationship? You may have discovered 'masculine' qualities about yourself that helps in any emotional conflicts involving your mother.

Then there is the second aspect of the dream, the spirituality aspect. The 'Bodhisattva' would be an archetypal dream experience. These representations are from the deepest depths of the psyche, the collective unconscious where, although you have no personal waking experience with the subject matter, you tap into those 'inherent' properties that will guide you through the 'positioning' to spiritual and personal enlightenment.

This could be an important turning point in your life. Such archetypal dream experiences come about when there are major changes in life, especially of the spiritual kind. I will need to examine this aspect more thoroughly before giving a final interpretation.

Do you feel you have had new realizations about your life, the relationship with your mother, new concepts to do with your spirituality?

Jerry
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Wow, your insights are blowing me away. My mother has called me Cinderella in the past. When I lived near family I was the planner and worker bee for all family gatherings. My mother and sister would call me Cinderella...it was never a compliment. I just laughed it off each time.

After my father's death my mother would put a feminine twist on my father's name and use it to make fun of me at times. Jack-Jacquline. It was very hurtful but I never addressed the issue with her.

The initial problem right before this dream was: my mother had called me SEVERAL times telling me of problems she was having and asking me to help. So I made a special trip to do just that. It is a very busy time for me but I dropped my schedule to go to her. The angry blowup came from the man she lives with and was directed at me about being in my mother's business. I excused myself and went to the room I was staying in....this was all done quietly and without becoming angry in return. Shortly my mother followed me and tried to make excuses for his behavior. I asked her twice to leave and she persisted. At that point I lost my cool and fought back. It was misdirected and I should have taken issue with him instead. I left the next morning and berated myself all the way home for my behavior.
I have been on a spiritual journey that had acclerated over the last three or four years. I have been actively studying metaphysics in a class room setting. I have a regular yoga and meditation practice and I have been on the spiritual fast track for sometime now. Recently life changes have had a huge impact on my regular routine and my meditation, studies and yoga have suffered.
On one hand I have been very pleased with my spiritual development....I have become incredibly calm, remaining in the flow of life until this happened. I am very hard on myself and was quit disappointed in the way I handled myself. I felt all my progress towards spiritual development had been made void by the way I reacted.
I hope this is helful information. I appreciate your efforts on my behalf and certainly appreciate any more insights you may have.
The second half of the dream seemed so 'spritual and real'. It was almost as if it really happened. That is why I felt this dream carried great importance for me.

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Kathy,
It is about to rain and storm outside this morning so I should have time to thoroughly analyze your dream. I have other dreams that need my attention but since you are a 'first timer' I want to give your dream special attention. Plus I sense the dream as being important, the Bhodavista/Bodhisattva inclusion perhaps being a true archetypal reference that denotes a spiritual aspect to the dream that could be defining in your life.

The Dream
There does seem to be a distinct 'inter-mingling' of two aspects of your life, something that is common in dreams {Jung tells us all dreams have at least two interpretations}. One would be the spiritual aspect and the other the recent emotional with your mother. One is a search for a deeper sense of being and the other a desire/need to resolve the emotional conflict. Likely the two are related {probably having to do with the spiritual}.

From your most recent response:
"I excused myself and went to the room I was staying in....this was all done quietly and without becoming angry in return." This would be a 'gift'. The ability to control the emotions is a part of a true spiritual identity. You are still in the 'reception area', learning to control the emotional aspects that have so long governed your life {and hopelessly governs most peoples' lives}.

From the dream:
"Somehow I knew that I was being instructed to quietly go to her and tell her to go back to her assigned position."

Compare that to your response:
"was directed at me about being in my mother's business."
and
"Somehow I knew that I was being instructed to quietly go to her and tell her to go back to her assigned position."

This would be addressing the emotional conflict with your mother. From the waist down, that symbolic part of the physical self that represents the body, you are still 'Cinderella'. Expectations of the physical life.

But it could also be about the 'assigned' place expected from the cultural position of 'religious' expectations. There is this 'other part of you'. the spiritual aspect. The 'Cinderella' of fairy-tales escaped the shackles that bound her {symbolically from the body to the spiritual}.

"It was snow white and was covered in rectangular shiny objects that reflected light; like mirrors. It was very ornate and beautiful. It was like a wedding gown."

This is the spiritual identity, the 'gift' you are receiving as demonstrated by your 'guilt' of not being patience in response to the conflict with your mother. The wedding gown is the 'marriage' to the spiritual identity, not beholding to the emotional self which is that of a lesser being. This is a positive, consciously becoming aware of those negative aspects of the personality that need to change.

The 'Eastern Indian or Asian descent' may be related to your introduction to yoga. There are two aspects of yoga. The actual physical practice, sitting in a meditative state, controlling the breath, being quiet, stilling the mind. That position, often unknowingly, evolves to the other aspect, the psychological aspect which relates to the 'Bodhisattva'. By stilling the emotions there is the healing aspect. By learning to 'breathe' spiritually the emotions are no longer in control. Buddhism is not a religion, it is a psychology. Yoga is both physical and psychological {"Christians who practice yoga are often consciously unaware of the deeper psychological aspects}.

The theatre is the theatre of your life. The pictures are of you, your past. The mother is both the real mother as well as the 'divine' mother {two aspects in the same dream}. The royal babies. Undoubtedly your mother loves you, all babies are 'royal'. But so does the 'spiritual' mother, related to nature {not separate as Western religions teach}. You are tapping into those resources, probably due to your study of metaphysics which often teach of the bond between man and nature, nature and 'god/goddess'. This is the 'royal aspect' you are searching for. Babies are new and you are in discovery of that 'new self', the greater Self. We are all spiritual by birth. But we must learn to realize that connection to nature to truly experience the spiritual Self.

Back to the theatre. In life we are all 'play acting' We are not who we really are, the personal having taken on a subjective attitude of self, guided by the emotions and the desires of the body. This is not the spiritual being we were 'naturally' born to be. By accepting the 'gift' you learn to leave this aspect of self behind, its demotion to a lesser position.

Note: The ego must undergo a death and resurrection {Christ on the cross motif}. We can not completely divorce ourselves from ego, it is what makes us human. But the ego-centered self has to be a lesser influence with the spiritual Self being in control.

As you are guided to the water {water is a common symbol for the unconscious} you evolve into a different person, all aspects of life change, you begin to surround yourself with like minded people. Yourself, all aspects {people}, the whole self, becomes spiritual.

"All of the people who had previously been in line with me had surrounded the pond and were now watching me as I was guided toward the water."

As I mentioned previously the 'Bodhisattva' aspect of the dream may suggest a major change in your life. This is likely an 'archetypal' dream experience. This is a psychological realization that transcends all norms of social and cultural expectations. It's not something you have experienced physically, it is an non-audible experience from the deepest layers of the psyche {inherent from the most primitive stages of life}. Anyone who dares travel the path of true spirituality {the hero/heroine journey of mythology} is 'honored' by receiving the gift of knowledge beyond the audible words of social requirements. The 'mud' in life {the accumulated emotional baggage we carry into later life} does not control, it is merely a fact of life which is understood and controlled. The emotional mud has been cleansed and is not the baggage it would have been if not for the resurrection to the spiritual.

Once you have accepted the challenge of the hero/heroine path you 'stir' the waters within. You discover strength, wisdom, power, discipline. These are masculine aspects that become the 'helping hands' in your journey.
"As I stirred the water I saw a masculine head begin to appear."
The whole body becomes spiritual. But there are not any legs. This may be a response to the disappointment in how you handled yourself in the experience with your mother. But it may also be a comment on your position in your spiritual journey, where you are in that journey. It is still relatively new and have yet to grow 'legs' for the spiritual self to be fully integrated into the waking life {thus, how you responded in your experience with your mother}.

You just completely give in to this 'new' masculine identity {this may denote personality characteristics-are you lacking in masculine qualities, perhaps a bit introverted?}. Accepting this newly discovered aspect of personality will help balance your personality and psyche. It will also balance the spiritual with the body/ego. This is the intent and goal of Jung's Individuation Process. Developing and then utilizing a stronger masculine attitude {standing up to your mother in those instances where you need to}, embracing the masculine, this will in time produce 'magic' into your life {the 'magic' reference could also be from introduction to spiritual concepts such as Wicca}.

Breathing underwater is being able to control the emotions. Controlling the emotions where they do not control you, this is the ultimate goal to true balance in life. The spiritual 'Self' is beyond the influence of the desires of the ego body. Living a spiritual life, walking the walking rather than just talking the talk, propels you into a higher level of existing. And a higher purpose in life. It is finding 'meaning' in life that becomes so important after mid-life. Discovering, and living the spiritual life will bring meaning to life {often in the form of creativity}.

"I don't believe people are looking for the meaning of life as much as they are looking for the experience of being alive." — Joseph Campbell

Dream:
This act of holding and being held was not sexual in nature, but was highly spiritual. I was told we were mating, becoming one.

This is where you are in life, your spiritual realizations. This dream is most likely an important moment in your life. Not only is it about discovery of the spiritual self but also aspects of personality that needs to be strengthened. As you continue your journey to wholeness you will develop legs to carry you through life as a spiritual being. There are indications of a need for you to develop new 'masculine' aspects if not attitudes {personality qualities}. Dreams will point to those aspects that need to be developed and/or strengthened. By letting the 'spiritual' aspect 'touch' you intimately you will become that spirit. By developing new masculine aspects you will be able to confront those emotional aspects in your waking life that are the negatives that hold you back. This is attainable without denying the qualities of spirituality. This is the great realization of the spirit. Being human but with the guidance and under the direction of the spiritual Self. Being objective in looking at life but also being subjective so to you do not lose the qualities of compassion, love, beauty, nature. Balance is the key in all aspects of life.

I have provided a lot to think about. This dream struck me as being very important. I hope I have given food for thought that will help you in your spiritual journey.

Jerry

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Oh my Jerry. You have supplied me with so much to think about and digest. I have been away from the computer but I was eager to get back to see what you had written. I am not disappointed and your effort on my behalf has been beyond what I could have asked for. If you do not mind I would like to take a few days to discover and acknowledge all of your insights. When I have had time to fully digest all of this I would like to let you know my thoughts; if that is alright with you. I have never done this before so I don't know all the rules, but I am thinking you might like some feedback after all your effort and time. So with that being said I will get back to you.

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Kathy,
It is a lot to digest. When you have taken it all in and given it thought you can post your reply.

Jerry

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Jerry, I have poured over your dream interpretation many times now. I am in awe of your insights. It has seemed as if you have somehow come to know me thru this dream. I know that all the thoughts you have supplied have made it easier for me to digest the implications of this dream. I DO feel it is a very important dream for me in all respects. It amazes me how our higher Self reveals these things to us. I recognize and acknowledge that I am unbalanced between my feminine and masculine sides. I looked back at some of my dream journals and realized that this theme has been presented to me over the past two years that I am aware of. I am a highly sensitive person who is easily hurt by the anger and aggressions of others.....life long theme. I have often told myself that I need to wear leather britches and gain some balls (hope that is not too bluntly put, or offensive). There is so much I could share with you but I realize you are a VERY intuitive person and your self-chosen craft is to help others understand their dream messages.......you are not a counselor.....so I will stop with the confessions and would just like to add one other thing. Your thoughts on yoga...and all are spot on. I have had an active yoga practice for 11 years now. For eight of those years yoga was an exercise to strengthen myself and retain flexibility as I age.(hopefully gracefully). Three years ago my practice took an abrupt turn around and it became a highly spiritual aspect of my life. No longer an exercise, but now a daily spiritual experience that walked hand in hand with my studies and my meditation. I have even journaled about this change and often wondered how it came about.....then I realized that as my spiritual journey intensified, so did all aspects of my life. I am so much a diamond in the rough, but I march ever onward. Your interpretation has given me huge insights in so MANY areas. I hope you will be available to help in the future. Thank you for your gift of intuitive insights and the gift of your time and efforts on the behalf of us seekers.

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Kathy,
Your experience with yoga may have figured into the 'Bodhisattva' inclusion in your dream. But its timing could indicate an important transition in your life. Many know of yoga as a 'physical' exercise but few understand the importance of its psychological aspect. Buddhism {Bodhisattva is from Mahayana Buddhism} is not a religion as much as it is a psychology. A psychology of 'turning inward', self discovery, finding within oneself the 'Christ' {the death and resurrection of 'Jesus on the Cross' motif is a metaphorical reference of dying to the ego-centric body and resurrected to the spiritual Self}. Jung takes the 'inward journey' a step further by having the individual examine the whole life to discover the 'foundations' and causes for why a person is who they are in adulthood. The hero/heroine of myth is actually on an inward journey of self discovery and in the process discovering the spiritual aspect. The 'universal' symbols, Jung's archetypes of the unconscious, are shared experiences in mythology as well as dreams {dreams like yours with the Bodhisattva represents a major archetypal image that depicts a major transition}. This is not by accident since early man, and his psyche development, saw dreams as 'signs from the gods' and included those images in their myths. Thus the 'saying'
dreams are personal myths, myths are universal dreams

I discovered the importance of psychological yoga from Joseph Campbell's book Transformations of Myths Through Time {renamed Mythos}. He devoted two chapters to this topic. I recommend this book, or better yet the video, since it contains in simple language the importance of mythology in the evolution of man's psyche. By understanding that life is a psychological journey we are able to better understand ourselves. Campbell is a master of articulating that message.

As for being available for the future, my whole intent in life is to be just that. At the moment I am having to serve the social 'dragon' {work} as well as trying to give as much quality time to my dream work and exploration of the deeper psyche. I will be 62 in less than a year and my plans are to retire early so I can give full time to the latter {and slaying the social dragon once and for all}. My 'gift' of insights to the dream has evolved over the past 18 years and the cumulation of that evolution will enter its final phase when I am able to give my full effort to the dream world. It is my 'bliss'. We all have that one thing in life that is the 'bliss', the thing we love most doing. I was 42 when I discovered my true calling. Part of the hero/heroine adventure is discovering the bliss in life and more often than not it has to do with the muse. But whatever the bliss it is almost always accompanied by a spiritual awakening, true spirituality being an experience that includes nature as a part of who we are.

You will probably have more dreams that focus on your inward journey. You are more than welcome to share those dreams and hopefully we will be able to provide insights to your journey through your dreams. I am not a counselor but if by helping you understand your dreams helps in your journey to wholeness then I am available in that endeavor.

Jerry

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There are no mistakes and when I found your site it was by divine design. Thank you again and I have you bookmarked for possible future interpretations. You have opened the door for me to expand my personal research and learning by intensifing my own study of dreams and the many terms and quotes you have referenced. I am richer by far for having 'met' you via the world wide net.

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Kathy,
Divine design or perhaps Synchronicity. This is one of the more controversial theories from Jung but one I feel very important. It was such a 'chance' encounter that led me to this point in time where I am interpreting dreams {from a couch potato, sports junkie to a 'Jungian' type whose bliss is exploring the deeper psyche}. If you have not read my story of 'chance encounters' here it is in brief form.

On a Sunday evening in late 1992 I just happened to turn my TV set to PBS not knowing what was on. There I found a program where Bill Moyers was interviewing a man named Joseph Campbell. I knew well who Moyers was but had never heard of Campbell. The program was the first of the six part series entitled The Power of Myth. I sat through that hour and when it ended I knew immediately something had changed in my life. It was a profound feeling that led me to this place in time. It was indeed an event that attracted my soul. The reason is still unclear in the scheme of things {other than bringing me to wholeness, discovering my bliss, providing for the first time in my life where I want to go with my life}. It was the most meaningful coincidence.

There have been other co-incidences in my life than led to meaningful changes. But this one was so defining, so much a change from who I was to I really am. It took me from a position of dependency to one of being in control. From a mindless subject of social inducement to to mind that is evolving beyond my greatest expectations. And it is a blissful adventure even in a world were suffering is an integral part of life.

I sense you are on such a path, a journey of realization. My words are limited but I believe the pages and links at my Myths-Dreams-Symbols web site offer unlimited knowledge to help you in your journey. Pay special attention to Campbell. As difficult as Jung is in his speech, Campbell articulates Jungian thought to a level even the modest of minds can understand. I know from experience this to be true, possessing a very average mind at best.

Jerry

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Good morning......Synchronicity is one of my firmest beliefs. I sometimes do not use the word too freely because it usually brings about someone asking me what that mean. So generally I use the Divine design thought. I am definitely going to continue to study and read your information on the site, and I will be looking into the works of Joseph Campbell.
We ( all dreamers needing help) are so blessed that you heeded the the call of Spirit to change your life and begin your journey into the dream world. I am certain our journeys will cross again. Thank you, I am indeed searching for my bliss..........

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Jerry I just wanted to let you know that I have rented Joseph Campbells interviews and I can hardly wait to see what I can learn from them. Thank you for the suggestion. I have another dream I would like you to look at, but I need to send it from my home computer so I will do that soon.

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Kathy,
After you consume these tapes I suggest the Michael Toms 'New Dimensions Radio' interviews {repackaged in audio tapes as 'The Wisdom of Joseph Campbell'}. These conversations on Tom's New Dimensions radio program out of San Francisco covered interviews with Campbell over a span of 12 years (1975 to 1987). They provide a depth to Campbell's personality and thinking that helped clarify so much about his message that often was lost in translation in other programs. You will thoroughly enjoy every moment of these wonderful conversations.

Jerry

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