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Re: Dream about me with my mother in Africa-(any Jungian/Cambell ideas anyone?)

Susan,
Don't think twice about being too personal or saying too much about your life. Speaking what is on your mind and being able to talk about your emotions is a good therapy. Holding it in can be harmful to psychological health {which affects physical health and vice versa} if not dangerous.

I will take another look at your dream with the knowledge you provided and see if I can gain any other insights to what the dream may be communicating. I did look at the capitalization of the words Africa and Mother as important and although it may be your style of writing it does seem to focus on important emotional aspects. Unconsciously the psyche denotes such issues. You state you have 'mother issues' and that would lend to a need to focus on that relationship {not only in adulthood but from the beginning as a child}. Africa is the 'dark continent' which would be an apt description of your total psyche. 'Expectations unmet' would be your assessment of yourself as a woman, feeling you have failed in that aspect. This inward journey is archetypal and the dreams seems to be focused on the total frustration you feel about yourself and your life.

You said something I totally agree with. Everyone wants to throw these philosophies at you as if a slogan will automatically bring about a cure. I wish that were true. But it is much more complicated as you know. I've met so many who subscribe to some philosophical or personal rationalism yet have not discovered a true balanced and harmonious life. This is because they have only touched the surface of the problem and not gone into the depths of their inner self. The primary issue is a psychological one and until a person takes that inner journey into their 'dark Africa' the cure will remain elusive. It takes time, effort and DISCIPLINE. It is so easy to fall off the path. It is a heroic journey and when one does stay the path life does improve. I speak from experience having spent the past 20 years in self analyzation. Life isn't perfect, it never will be. But I am at a place and time where I know what I want and where I am going. The rewards of staying true to the 'inward journey' {a slogan for a psychological investigation of one self} can be tremendous. But again it takes time, effort and most of all discipline. God can only provide the tools that are required for the journey. The toll of using those tools are left to the individual.

I may be wrong but I believe Marion Woodman could provide you with tools for your struggles. She has worked with women's issues most of her life and her insights are that of a sage. Take some time and investigate her books. You may find something that will point you in the right direction. The power of the feminine is greater than all other forces combined and it seems you may need to learn how to trust this inner aspect more than anything else. Follow the links below and see if there isn't something that will help. I attribute my 'psyche' abilities to understand dreams and communicate that understanding to others to the 'feminine power' of the psyche. One not be a woman to tape into this feminine power. As the word psychology infers, it is the 'psyche' that one needs to investigate and in doing so you are touching the soul {Psyche - Greek for Soul}. As Marion Woodman states, "Psychological work is soul work".
Pardon the slogan.

Woodman's book Addiction to Perfection: The Still Unravished Bride: A Psychological Study may be a good place to begin. A review of the book paperback}

Through case studies, dreams, and myths, a Jungian analyst explores the hidden causes of compulsion in the lives of men and women. At the root of eating disorders, substance abuse, and other addictive and compulsive behaviors, Woodman sees a hunger for spiritual fulfillment. The need to experience a sacred connection to an energy greater than their own drives people to search for an illusory ideal of perfection. Through discussions of parenthood, creativity, and body image, this presentation shows that freedom from addiction can be found by discovering the wisdom and power of the feminine principle.

Here is a video of Woodman in an interview {24 minutes} that will provide insights to her approach to therapy.
Marion Woodman
Jungian Approach to Dreams


I recommend this page also IN FOCUS:
MARION WOODMAN
. Woodman addresses much of what women must do in finding harmony in life. I know slogans are often wasteful but Woodman has a way of saying what fits.

There is a point...
where people are addicted
to being victims. It's very
important to want to
walk on your own.


I'll take another look at your dream with the info you have provided and see if there is anything that stands out worth mentioning.

Jerry The God Within You A Prayer For You



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Re: Dream about me with my mother in Africa-(any Jungian/Cambell ideas anyone?)

Jerry,
Thank you. I am not planning a trip to Africa, or anywhere. Im stuck in the most awful paralysi of my life. Also- regarding the CAPITAL letters I used for the words: MOTHER and AFRICA, I do this in my journal of dreams, the reason being to mark anything I suspect could be the symbols- personal or collective. Thats so, to go and look at those dreams again,I have not just pages of words- but I could find the symbols of a certain type-therefore a thread developing, etc, over time. Thing is I dont know if thats gonna prove right to do, but I do it. Seems a good idea.been recording dreams on and off last few years, but alone, no psychanalyst.Im scared of many of the contents-perhaps a little knowledge is a bad thing. I have read a few of Jungs works, & jOSEPH cAMPBELL A BIT. Got the ideas thru my head I believe on collective,personal unconscious and other things, and major symbols.Some dreams appear to speak of death,.Shouldnt reveal much of my situation here I believe, nor take your time with it. Things arent great physically or mentally anyhow. QUESTION -would you say I must get myself a proper Jungian therapist. I watched Marie-Louise Von Franz in interview on youtube recently, and stopped writing dreams somewhat-not as vigorously anyway- as she thought one must get out of ones own self- cant see oneself properly.Also one needs a person with experience & myth knowledge. Makes sense. If you believe I must do so to do things properly re individuation- well also HOW would a person choose a therapist. Theyre expensive,but also I have little resilience as a person at present to go throught he stress of (, reckon) of telling personal stuff to someone, then if they arent right for me, trying that over & over. Did that once with counsellers & I aint the type to reveal 7 share easily- it was traumatic- as the vulnerability required & that they may judge me etc, or whatever proved as traumatic as what I went there for. Group therapy-out of the question.Dont understand the humans who are not as traumatised by THAt process, as they are by thier origianl problems, Thus I wonder- there may be no answer possible- but what do YOu think. i appreciate you reading my dream. Ive written to you before saying this- I really respect & am grateful for you solid('depth & weight'- to quote the Big Book of alcoholics Anonymous)- website. PS- I couldnt understand the last short paragraph orf your reply. Apologies for the long email- hope not to cumbersome. yours sincerely, Susan

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Re: Dream about me with my mother in Africa-(any Jungian/Cambell ideas anyone?)

tHANK YOU VERY MUCH jERRY.
(damn cap-lock- its a gremlin). I shall get the books of Marion Woodmans that you suggested.

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Got In Focus Thanks

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Re: Dream about me with my mother in Africa-(any Jungian/Cambell ideas anyone?)

Susan,
Woodman's books may help. She is a wonderful Jungian analyst who has set new trends in investigating the psyche. Her feminine perspective is partly from experience, partly from psyche understanding. I believe she may have answers for you in some of the problems you are experiencing.

I took another look at your dream and it really does seem to fit the person you describe yourself to be. A lot of darkness {Africa being an appropriate metaphor}. In the dream you feel useless and lost. I see potential {'Ooh and Ahh" about the psyche, about mysterious places, and psychis detectives etc- all the exciting stuff} but something is lacking that would let you carry through with these positive aspects {the darkness prevails}. A good bet the darkness is a result of childhood experiences and shared inherent traits, both involving your mother {your mother issues}.

The unexplained thing about your condition is you are fully aware of it yet have not been able to resolve the issues. Could it be that the 50 years of life you have spent with this emotional baggage caused a neurological mutation in your genes? Or/and an inheritance from your mother? As much as I believe in psychology as the way forward to a balanced and harmonious life {the discovery and understanding of your condition is because you have taken the time to make these psychological investigations} there are some maladies that drugs can make a difference. Imbalances can be stabilized with the proper drugs. I don't recall from any of your posts that you have had psychological treatment but I assume you have. If so have were any drugs prescribed and did they help? Of course even treatment for a chemical imbalance the continued proper psychological treatment can also benefit genetic deficiencies. But that probably required a trained Jungian psychologist. There has to be a solution.

In the meantime continue your search inward. A continued spiritual search should be beneficial {I believe you are wise enough to stay away from religion as a possible solution in your spiritual search}. Woodman may have provide some helpful insights. I have benefited from true Ah! Ha! moments in my life and believe in such things, to the extent should experiences can be life changing. A continuation of investigating your dreams will help you not only reveal any unknowns but will also help in guiding you forward {dreams do not lie}. If you have any dreams you wish help with please post them. As i stated previously 'sharing' is in itself therapy.

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Re: Dream about me with my mother in Africa-(any Jungian/Cambell ideas anyone?)

Jerry'
Wooo. Very interesting
Got a lot to say. You've tapped into a couple very interesting things re whats gone on over here with me. Im gonna compose a careful reply -but this is just thanks

Re: Dream about me with my mother in Africa-(any Jungian/Cambell ideas anyone?)

Susan,
I look forward to your response. We are participating in a dialog with the unconscious as well as with each other.

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