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Magician

Hello Jerry,

Once you did help me a lot with my dream about Pentecost. Now I had another dream which I don't have idea about.

My dream is about magician and trick which he wanted to present to the audience.

There was something big happening. I and my mum were waiting for my friend - Joe to join us. He didn't come and I was sad and sat near a tree. I didn't see the whole tree only its trunk. Then he came, he kissed me and we all went to watch the show.
The trick involved one person, magician could lift the standing men into air and turned around him very quickly. In order to did so, magician should rotate the coin and in time when coin was rotating the person was lifted and turned around in the air. Joe was involved in this experiment. There were two rooms, one for Joe and he went there and another one for magician and audience. Magician was performing his trick but he was sometimes fool, as the coin didn't want to rotate and he tried to do this many times. Then finally he succedded. I saw rotating someone in the air, then I went to the room where Joe was sitting. There he was far from me as sleeping and in front of me was large snake which was cut into two pieces.

It would be great if you have some time to help me with that. I think that it was important dream cause I remember it in details.

Good thoughts for you

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Re: Magician

Katarzyna,
This dream is a 'tricky' one to figure out. I do get a sense of definite meanings from the symbols but I am having a hard time putting it all together. I will give more time to it later today and see if I see something different in the symbols.

But I do sense it may involve relationships with men and/or your masculine aspects. What is your relationship with Joe? Could it be there is some indecision {rotating the coin, and men} involving the relationship with Joe or men in general? On one hand you may like the relationship as purely friendship but deep down you may be afraid if you do not take the opportunity you may miss out on something more permanent. You may also be thinking about relationships in general, fearing you may need to get involved.

There is a definite masculine aspect to the dream, possibly addressing two aspects, and it could involve what I have stated in relationship with Joe, he being one aspect of the masculine, as well as your own masculine abilities involving relationships. The snake being cut into would fit with that {two aspects of the masculine}. The snake may also represent hidden fears and that could have to do with relationships.

Another possibility is the dream is addressing aspects of being the fool. Or the issue may be fooling someone, either yourself or possibly Joe. Are you afraid of entering into a relationship with the fear of it now going well {being played a fool?}. I see several possibilities in the dream with the 'relationship' aspect at the forefront.

If you can provide a little more information about the relationship with Joe I should be able to provide a better explanation of the dream message.


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Re: Magician

Katarzyna,

I'm looking at your dream as I drink a cup of coffee at Starbucks and wanted to give a few more thoughts while the dream was on my stimulated mind {dark roast coffee} about the possible meaning {all while waiting to see where Joe fits}. The interpretation really depends on what role Joe plays in your waking life. Here is another possible application, again depending on where Joe fits. In truth there are probably more than one application of the animus aspects being addressed.

I did want to take another look at Joe, as well as possible animus aspects, and determine whether there could be a relationship to your Pentecost dream and/or spiritual associations. Trees in dreams often represent growth aspects and if what you see is the trunk the dream could be addressing inner senses of well being {personal growth}. Or perhaps 'the roots' of some aspect of your deeper psyche {possible spiritual}. Joe, the masculine, kisses you which may suggest an acceptance of an animus {masculine} aspect within you that was not previously there {He didn't come so you sat near the tree}. If Joe is in some way associated to your spiritual path the dream focused on the spiritual aspect/spiritual growth. After the kiss, an acceptance of a masculine aspect, you go with Joe which suggest you accept him {masculine aspect} also.

How to put this into the context of the rest of the dream is the next thing to do. A quick inspection of the other symbols I see possible associations to spiritual aspects. In your real life and from the Pentecost dream we know there is difference in spiritual approaches than your mother [and sister} and in the dream there are the two rooms, one for 'Joe' and the other the magician. The magician would represent an opposite aspect within you which in waking life could be your Dominican spiritual approach as opposed to the Catholic belief of your mother. In the context that the magician is used in the dream there would seem to be a questioning of the concepts of the order {of Dominicans}. That could the opposing masculine aspects the dream is focused which could suggest there is a conflict of spiritual values. That could make it related to the Pentecost dream.

There is one aspect of the dream I have not focused and that is the very beginning. The dream opens with, "There was something big happening". That would set the stage for what the dream is about, something big, or something important in your life. Is there anything 'big' happening in your recent waking life experiences? I look at big as being something important.

Again Joe is the key. Are there spiritual associations related to him in your waking life? If he in some way fits in with that then the dream could very well be associated with the spiritual aspects in your life. That is something 'big', important in your life.

And it could very well be both explanations I have present have merit. What about Joe? Joe will have to 'come clean' for us to know what fits. I await your reply.


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Re: Magician

Hello Jerry,

Sorry for not replying earlier. I didn't receive an information on mail that you did reply to my post. Thanks a lot for as always great ways of explanations. I will read them several times and think about.

I will tell sth more about Joe. He is my friend from Ireland. When I was there working he helped me a lot and since the beginning I felt somehow connected with him. I like him very much and we are friends since that time - it is more than 2 years. He is very important to me, you can say he is my soul mate or sth like that. We are pretty similar to each other with our thinking. He is also a men so at the beginning I had a problem to distinct between love for friend and love for a men. Now I think I succedded and I treat him as my best friend. I miss him very much but we are still in touch. We writes mails to each other.

Hope it was a good coffee. As Cooper(from Twin Peaks) drank:)

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Re: Magician

I had many dreams with him.

One I remember very good. That it was a tornado. I, my husband, my son and Joe were at small house. I saw big whirlwind and suddently my husband and Joe dissappeared. Then I went with my son to some hill and saw them coming off doors. They were standing around the place for bonfire made from stones. There were 4 people around fire place: my husband, Joe, some American Indian and myself. My husband was singing some song in Elvish like Aragorn in Lord of the Rings. I didn't remember the words.

I think that sth big is realationship with Joe. It is very important to me and I don't want to lose him. Also I'm coming back to work after maternity leave - to work when the only person who I can trust is Joe.

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Re: Magician

And also there was a problem with relationship with men in general for me. I had some situation when men treated me only in sexual categories while I thought that we were friends or sth. It was not Joe but when I was in Ireland I was more afraid about myself getting involved in sexual relationship with him while I knew that my husband was in Poland and I loved him very much. Nothing "bad" happened and we ended as good friends. Since that time I tried to figure out what's the difference of love between my husband and him. Cause my love for my husband started from the stage of friends. Then I thought that it is not bad to love more people as long as we are honest to each other and don't break rules of sleeping with someone else.

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Re: Magician

Katarzyna,
Thanks so much for your response{s}. I think I see where the dream is paralleling your waking life. The confusion I had in reading the dream may have had something to do with your relationship with Joe. The closeness to him while being married to someone else could have had an input although it would have been a 'psychic' reading instead of a psyche sense {psychics are mostly frauds whereas psyche refers intuitively sensing the psychological mind}. I don't claim any 'psychic' abilities but do have a good sense of reading the psyche, in dreams as well as with people in general.

My sense of the dream in my original assessment seems to be correct. Both in the relationship with Joe as well as men in general. And there could be the third element coming through involving the spiritual. I'll address that later.

The friendship factor came through very strong in the dream and you confirmed that in your response. I think the magician symbol is related to him as a 'man' who can show friendship and not expect more. It is indeed a magical moment when a woman can have such a friendship without 'benefits' {quoting a scene from Seinfeld}. You do hold Joe to a higher position. The fact he is in another country would explain my sense of 'missed opportunities'.

Then there is the issue of men in general I mentioned and you confirmed. The coins in the dream would represent 'values' you possess {at least in one context}. My sense of 'being played the fool' may fit here. Men wanting to be friends purely for sexual reasons, playing you for a fool. The magician symbol takes on multiply meanings {which is the norm in dreams}.

The two rooms may have multiply meanings also. One would be the special relationship with Joe who is a friend and does not require benefits. The other room is where the magician is the 'trickster' where the playing the fool and trying to trick you would fit {dreams often use a play on words to illustrate an emotional issue}. The later would be the issue with men in general, their tricks to deceive you {remember these are emotional issues you have or have experienced}.

The experiment would be your general relationships with men, rotating and seeking relationships that are genuine and not simply for sexual purposes. Joe is one of those relationships albeit genuine and different than the rest. But there is an element that remains a mystery. The dream statement, " he tried to do this many times. Then finally he succeeded." is not clear in its intent. Who was it that tried many times and then succeeded? Could that be your husband? I do sense an unresolved issue and that would be the primary intent of the dream in its therapeutic attempt to help you solve an unresolved issue {one of three issues i sense in the dream}. There could be the issue of the 'rotating' emotions you have between the relationship with your husband and that with Joe.

There are three issues. One would be the relationship with men in general. Another would be the issue of love for your husband and reconciling that with your 'general' but non-sexual love for Joe. The third issue, and perhaps the 'big happening' would be your true emotions involving Joe. The last part of the dream points to that. The dream language reads, "then I went to the room where Joe was sitting. There he was far from me as sleeping and in front of me was large snake which was cut into two pieces."

The room in which Joe was sitting is a significant room. He is in real life 'far away from you' which may suggest a desire to be closer to him {which you admit is a wish}. The snake may represent 'hidden fears' you have yet to confront. It is cut into which could suggest there are two elements to do with relationships that are cut up addressing emotional conflicts. I used the plural term conflicts because I sense the dream is addressing relationships in general as well as being specific {two rooms, two pieces}. the specific issue would be Joe sleeping far away from you with the other piece of the snake being your husband {the snake as a phallus could play here since you are 'sleeping' with your husband}.

Could there be hidden desires {snake} for Joe that you have not confronted as yet? That would play with the spiritual aspect i mentioned. We have addressed your strong spiritual aspects in your Pentecost dream. Could there be an issue in the relationship with Joe that is causing emotional conflicts? From experience, and i have had many as relationships go, 'rotating' more than one relationship at a time is not easy, or desirable {looking back and seeing it always caused real conflicts}. Could that be an issue? You could have the right mindset in your relationship with Joe {as a very good and reliable friend} but there may be 'natural' deeper issues because you are married. Has that come up in your mind, or even perhaps as an issue with your husband?

A lot to think about. I'll let you ponder what I have offered. Keep in mind your dreams are 'truth' without any bias or agenda. They show what is real and true, your true emotions that may not be allowed to be consciously recognized by the ego. The therapeutic device of dreams is to bring the truth out so the conscious self can examine what is there and help resolve emotional issues.


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Re: Magician

Thank you very much.

I'm not quite sure what do you mean by saying ""natural" deeper issues because you are married". I think that having him as a friend doesn't ruin relationship with my husband. We are quite happy now but as I said I do miss Joe. I will have to think about it more.

Smiles and virtual good coffee for you:)

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Re: Magician

Katarzyna,
I am exploring any other possible issues. If there is not problem with the relationships as they are then look at the rest of the interpretation and determines if it fits. Sorting through the possibilities is how we can finally resolve any outstanding issues. Look at the circumstances involving the military and possible conflicts related to patriarchy.


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