Fabian,
Here are the analysis of the second and third dreams. Note the childhood references in the second dream and my comments about how that does seem to be a norm for dreams and actual childhood experiences. You mentioned in your comments a possible connection to childhood. Were there any specific experiences at age 10 that would fit?

Second Dream Analysis {Breakdown of Images/actions and Summary}
-wind turbine-continuous unconscious energies at its strongest
-centered around boy age 10-experiences at age 10
-falling inside tower-lose of control of inner aspects where there is unconscious protection
-towards the ground-foundation experiences/influences
-ice foundation-emotionally paralyzed by foundation energies
-hands and knees- inability to handle conscious emotional position
-white whale-unconscious aspects that affected your innocence
-movie looping itself-energies within the unconscious that cause repeated conscious actions
-wrote to do something-communication between unconscious and conscious self
-boy from dying-inner child experiencing death

Summary
Whenever there are images/actions or references to a childhood or time frame in childhood at the beginning of a dream {see Getting Started/exposition structure in dreams} the dream is addressing issues to do with childhood {the age 10 will point to actual experiences at that age}. This is a constant in dreams, something I have stated previously from my experiences in working with dreams and verified in the responses when doing so. My sense of the dream after breaking down the images/actions there are conscious unconscious energies that are motivators for personality and actions in later life. The specific foundations {ground} for the attitudes/traits are from the early life experiences at age 10. The looping actions in the movie {the movie is of your life, at age 10 and those experiences that affect you as an adult} would represent the continuous control these energies have over your conscious life. The boy is your inner child, that child at age 10 that still lives within you but with aspects {to do with innocence} that died from those early life experiences. Are you aware of what those might be? Your added statement the dream might be about your childhood would suggest this. This is the true self as it has to do with those experiences and the attitudes/traits you have developed from those experiences. Look for specific experiences when you were age 10 and see how those would fit with the dream message.

Third Dream Analysis
-adoptive parents-a need for aspects to do with shelter/protection/love that were not
received from true parents
-mother acting sexy -nurturing aspects to do with the need of integration within your
psyche
-sexual signals/talking with father-nurturing aspects in reference to father
power/authority
-corporate trade-trading what is lacking in whole self
-downsides-negative aspects
-mother showing curves-deviation from what woud be straight/normal
-intended for dad-providing nurture that is normally intended for your dad

Summary
Unless there were actual sexual situations with your mother {unlikely but always a possibility} the dream may be pointing to nurturing aspects. I get the sense there were experiences to do with your parents {in dreams the image of a parent/parents can be literal as well as symbolic} where one was on one side and the other the opposite. At least partially if not wholly. There may have been issues of power and control {father} that affected both you and your mother. Whichever parent was on the positive side should be known to you. The dream may be pointing to aspects of nurturing you perceived {if not experienced} that was given by your mother to your father, nurturing aspects you did not receive.

Jerry

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Fabian,
A couple of comments to this post {Jul 11, 2015 - 4:34AM}.

Those who realize the inner path as a psychological journey are indeed in the minority. Most people are so fixed on the outer material ego world they have no clue to the inner. We all have 'abilities' and more often than not they are instinctual as well as creative. When we learn to live from the inner center we become our own teacher and with age, experience and wisdom we not only learn to share what we have learned, it is a part of the hero responsibility to do so {following Campbell's monomyth}, sharing what is learned/experienced in the individual journey, psychological as well as the experience.

As for analyzing dreams. Dreams are puzzles and although it is next to impossible to name exact personal experiences, providing an outline where the dreamer is able to fit the pieces in the proper places in general is very rewarding. This is how I have achieved so much success in my analysis {which is verified in the responses}.Instead of presuming I can pin a definition picture of what the personal experiences are, by outlining the underlying energies and motivators and giving a general outline how those are associated with the personal, there is a natural psyche recognition by the dreamer of the connections. I don't have to spell out in exact detail what the personal experiences or the unconscious energies are, just an outline that apply describes them touches the psyche nerve and allows the dreamer to see and understand my analysis. This is demonstrated in most of the responses I get from my analysis. And those are overwhelming positive {I am not yanking my ego, I am stating a fact}. This approach to analyzing/interpreting dreams is something I hope to get the word out since there is that general assumption that dreams are still a great mystery and we have yet to fully understand their intent or how to decode them.

As for a donation button. From the personal e-mail you sent me I have renewed my PayPal account and hope to add a donation button to the Dream Forum. Of course any funds I receive will go to my Kitty Fund in support of caring for the neighborhood/feral cats. This has been a rewarding endeavor but it is expensive, not only the feeding but the dreaded need to have to take one of them to the vet for health care. The stress of not being able to afford adequate health care is one of my biggest concerns. The expense for that stretches mt resources to the max and any serious illness is something beyond my means.

I'll close with a quote from Joseph Campbell I keep in my mind to remind me there are helping hands that are available when you follow the hero path and live a spiritual life.

"We have not even to risk the adventure alone
for the heroes of all time have gone before us.
The labyrinth is thoroughly known ...
we have only to follow the thread of the hero path.
And where we had thought to find an abomination
we shall find a God.

And where we had thought to slay another
we shall slay ourselves.
Where we had thought to travel outwards
we shall come to the center of our own existence.
And where we had thought to be alone
we shall be with all the world."

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In my dream I walked out of a room from the house that my father´s family owns. I feel very pensive and confused. I have been talking to ladies/women and they always are source of confusing feelings.

I walk the corridor. I see a small wondow like the ones that you can flip to adjust it's openness. Bright yellow light comes falling out of it. Than I am in a different room. Other youngmen have lead me there. I sit on the bed together with a blond, handsome youngman. I look around in his room and I see a tv. Noticing the quality of the image it's showing, I compliment him on his HD screen. I see the boy smiling an obvious proud and almost smurky smile. There is a sense of comrady with the boy and with the other boys that supposedly also live in that house and that are in the room but keeping their tactic yet polite distance. All is fine.

I am now in a classroom, yet in the same house. I see a very studious and serious girl with a headband and brown straight hair. She looks sad like somone just picked on her. The next thing I am doing is twirling around in a tutu in the middle of the cassroom! Everybody laughs. As I twirl it becomes clear that my crouched is stained with blood. I don't seem to care and I laugh too. I do my clown act like it was supposed to be that way.

The surroundings change and now I am in a hurry. I see purple lightning in the sky and as I would do in normal life, I immediately start running from tree to tree, looking for protection. While I am running I see my old tennis court from my childhood town. I noticed that Serena Williams is practicing. I walk along.

I have arrived in the house and I get in the course of two days and one night two visitiors. One is an old colleague. We start to drink alcohol and we eventually kiss. The next morning he really regrets it. It makes him leave in a agitated state, saying it was a mistake. I don't agree and I try to convince him, but he already is taking his leave. The next visitor is my brother. We start to smoke marijuana and play a one person racing video game that is situated in space (hey plays, I watch). The car in the game runs out of energy and it recharges . Bright white light can be seen around the car. At one point I tell my brother I think he smokes too much (we have had this discussion a lot in real life). I tried to trick him in letting go his joint by saying there is something wrong with it. When my brother has left I suddenly get very scared that people will come and take me away from my house! In a hurry I close the curtains, hoping they will protect me and prevent me of seeing the face(s) of these people loom in the glass of the windows.

My leave from the house takes place in broad flat boat. I see my grandmother. She sits opposite of me. I feel ashamed of her as she is talking nineteen to the dozen. I see an indian woman standing behind her. I sense she is also a bit awkward. It seems like my grandma has no inhibition. In my dream I suddenly get the sense that she has accepted herself and that she doesn't mind others minding her. During the journey (home?) we stop at a modern place. It has quite beautiful architecture that I notice and appreciate. My grandma though takes me to this square shaped meadow. Here she wants me to work on the land. I don't remember if we were reaping or sowing. I think reaping.

Than all of the sudden the dream pace accelerates a lot. I am flying underneath a bridge and all of the sudden I am Pocahontas and John Smith is holding me up in his arms. As I lay in his arms I feel a strong sense of connection.
John Smith now operates a a tour guide, showing us the things in town. We are still in a boat and we are cruising a wide, drowned city. There is not su much buildings that there is not a sense of openness. In the boat I am aware of the presence of a fat man. This man is a diplomat. John Smith shows us a hanged man and tells us it was a corrupt solicitor. I am not frightended by this image.

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Hey Jerry,

Thanks for your analysis. As for the first dream I found a possibly explanation. As I told you at first I couldn't remember any significant experience around that age. But when I read that the whale also could be a symbol of the mother I started to think and than all of the sudden a possibility emerged. I think this dream might be referring to a situation with my adoptive mother becoming very ill (she was a lot in the hospital in that specific time period) and her telling the doctors in our (my brother and me) presence that she didn't want again to go through this certain kind of medical treatment and device wearing and that she would rather die. This scene holds for me a strong sense of ambivalence. At one hand there is me getting kind of traumatized by the high emotions that were displayed, at the same time I have always had the deep intuitive feeling that my adoptive mother overexaggerated her reaction. In the end, she did have the operation. Looking back, I kind of feel like that when regarding the situations dealing with my mother sickness, I have been a witness of a staged play by my mother where in she was making herself sick and trying to get as much out of the situation as possible. As the perfect child that I tried to be, I tried to come up with a reaction that corresponded to what I thought was needed (as like following an untold script) but deep inside me there was this knowing that my mother was calling it upon herself and in a unconscious way was enjoying her role as being the victim. I guess at that point subconsciously I lost my innocence and my trust in other people. It probably has frozen my ability to really sympathise with people as I never truely belief that their sorrow might be real. This is a huge insight. Seeing this, I can also see the relation to my adult life now. I have this friend that I also accuse of doing the same thing that my mother once did. As opposed to searching healthy relationships, I am recreating the environment that I once was in. It provides me with the comfortable sense of being right and therefore not having to question my core beliefs. How I will ever learn to really trust people I don't know. But I truely believe that this dream has helped me to see where the root of my inclination layed by making it conscious and not unconsciouss anymore. I think I have to ask you again tremendously for your help in realising this.

The second dream is not so clear to me still. I will contemplate about it more and I will tell you right away when I found a possibly fitting experience. Thank you for all your help.

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Fabian,
I haven't taken a look at the dream in-depth but if you find associations in the dream to your waking life as you stated that is indeed a break through. It usually takes many dreams to get to the 'source' of the primary emotional issues. The foundations to personality and adult actions are most often centered in early life {Jung saw childhood as a motivating factor but believed more strongly that we are shaped by our future {aspirations}. Your deep distrust of people has foundations and no doubt the adoptive mother experiences/influences contributed to that mistrust. There are likely other experiences related to her that contributed to your emotional neurosis and identifying those will be important in finding a resolution. But this dream is important because it is the first time you have been able to put the pieces together. When the whole dream puzzle is completed you will be able to start the healing process. Having recognized the motivators is the first step in that process because they are no longer purely unconscious energies that have no boundaries. As Jung stated, 'Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will call it fate.'

Jerry

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Fabian,
I've partially broken down the dream images and would like for you to read what I see and comment. The dream seems to be addressing the inner aspects but also possible waking life experiences {other than your mother}. It is the possible waking experiences I wish you would comment if indeed there are any I have touched on that you can identify.

Here is the dream and then my analysis. I have analyzed all but the last two paragraphs.

In my dream I walked out of a room from the house that my father´s family owns. I feel very pensive and confused. I have been talking to ladies/women and they always are source of confusing feelings.


This part seems to be addressing issues that come from experiences/influences related to your father's family {or father}. Talking to ladies may suggest emotional aspects {women being the more emotional gender}. And/or issues to do with confusing emotions in actual experiences with women.


I walk the corridor. I see a small window like the ones that you can flip to adjust it's openness. Bright yellow light comes falling out of it. Than I am in a different room. Other youngmen have lead me there. I sit on the bed together with a blond, handsome youngman. I look around in his room and I see a tv. Noticing the quality of the image it's showing, I compliment him on his HD screen. I see the boy smiling an obvious proud and almost smurky smile. There is a sense of comrady with the boy and with the other boys that supposedly also live in that house and that are in the room but keeping their tactic yet polite distance. All is fine.


Either/and the other young man is you or another man you have an experience with in your life. It could be both and if it is you it would point to how you wish to be persevered/seen in real life, handsome, proud of who you are, a HD {higher definition} of who you are/wish to be. You identify with this other self {comrady}. He lives within you but you have not yet achieved this one aspect {room}, it is still in the distance.



I am now in a classroom, yet in the same house. I see a very studious and serious girl with a headband and brown straight hair. She looks sad like someone just picked on her. The next thing I am doing is twirling around in a tutu in the middle of the classroom! Everybody laughs. As I twirl it becomes clear that my crouched is stained with blood. I don't seem to care and I laugh too. I do my clown act like it was supposed to be that way.


A classroom point to experiences learned {or leaning experiences}. You are in the same house {father or father's family}. The girl in your dream probably points to emotional aspects, your anima. These emotions need to be revealed {clown can represent hidden emotions} because they put you in a position where you feel like a clown.


The surroundings change and now I am in a hurry. I see purple lightning in the sky and as I would do in normal life, I immediately start running from tree to tree, looking for protection. While I am running I see my old tennis court from my childhood town. I noticed that Serena Williams is practicing. I walk along.


Trees represent the power of personal growth. Running from tree to tree suggests you are searching within yourself as well as in your conscious world for those things that will provide personal growth. Protection issues are an issue {look to your 'father's family}. The tennis court with Senera Williams may be revealing underlying issues. Here is what a tennis court could represent:


Tennis represents changes and the need to actively assert yourself. You may be feeling the need to prove yourself time and time again. Alternatively, you may be unable to commit to a situation or decision. You are literally going back and forth between two choices. Since one of the score in tennis is denoted as "love", then the game of tennis may be a metaphor for a romantic relationship or a courtship.

court-A situation or circumstance in your life is giving your much distress and worry

I include the above because I sense there are more than one possible applications that may apply. The childhood town would likely be addressing your childhood environment. Senera Williams would point to feminine "shadow' aspects which in my experience come about in times of important changes in life. Walking along would suggest you are indeed engaged in these changes, consciously or partially conscious of your participation.

I have arrived in the house and I get in the course of two days and one night two visitors. One is an old colleague. We start to drink alcohol and we eventually kiss. The next morning he really regrets it. It makes him leave in a agitated state, saying it was a mistake. I don't agree and I try to convince him, but he already is taking his leave. The next visitor is my brother. We start to smoke marijuana and play a one person racing video game that is situated in space (hey plays, I watch). The car in the game runs out of energy and it recharges . Bright white light can be seen around the car. At one point I tell my brother I think he smokes too much (we have had this discussion a lot in real life). I tried to trick him in letting go his joint by saying there is something wrong with it. When my brother has left I suddenly get very scared that people will come and take me away from my house! In a hurry I close the curtains, hoping they will protect me and prevent me of seeing the face(s) of these people loom in the glass of the windows.


This part may be speaking to desires as well as a union of opposites {the old colleague-past experiences that influence you and your personality}. There may also be actual experiences involved. But overall it is addressing different aspects of your psyche and the union of opposites {conflicting emotions} would be to do with these. In the end you 'close the curtains', pushing the experiences into the unconscious so you won't have to deal with them consciously.

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Hello Jerry,

I will react on the parts that you have analyzed.

“This part seems to be addressing issues that come from experiences/influences related to your father's family {or father}. Talking to ladies may suggest emotional aspects {women being the more emotional gender}. And/or issues to do with confusing emotions in actual experiences with women.”

My mother always kept us away (at least that’s how I have felt) from my father’s side of the family. There was always something wrong about someone, like my grandma or aunt. I think my mother was jealous and afraid they might get too much influence over her children. I remember that when were just arrived in Holland, we visited the home of my uncle and aunt. When it was time to leave, I told my parents that I wanted to stay with them instead of going home. This is of course a horrible thing to say and my parents were obviously very upset, especially my mother. I didn’t know really what I was saying; I was just a child… Apparently I already noticed at such a young age that I was not going to get the life I needed to have from my adoptive parents and that somewhere else I might. How right I was! But to say that there are a lot of emotional conflicts regarding this side of my family is too much. Of course I pity it that I haven’t got to see my family that much, but they I guess that you don’t really miss what you don’t know. My relationship with my father is something different though. My dad was actually pretty awesome when my mother was not around. But to keep her happy, he always chose sides with her and punished us in her name. The things he and my mother did to discipline us were pretty harsh. I remember often feeling betrayed by my dad and his unwillingness or incompetence to protect us from the harm my mother was doing to us. In fact he often made it worse. As a teenager things with my dad became worse and then better. My mom moved out of the house for a while and in this time I kind of bonded with my dad. He helped me getting over my first experience of love sickness. But my dad always tried and still tries to push me in directions (career wise) that I don’t want to take. He just doesn’t know me well enough to be able to really help and guide me. In the end I consider him to be a very bad father figure. This really frustrates me sometimes. It frustrates me that he wasn’t there to teach me and my brother anything about real life, except about the bad things people can do to each other. As I think about it I think I am still very mad at him. Why did he have to betray us like that? Why didn’t he protect us? My mind has the answers but in my heart I still don’t understand. I think this is the confusion that I have felt in my dream.

“Either/and the other young man is you or another man you have an experience with in your life. It could be both and if it is you it would point to how you wish to be persevered/seen in real life, handsome, proud of who you are, a HD {higher definition} of who you are/wish to be. You identify with this other self {comrady}. He lives within you but you have not yet achieved this one aspect {room}, it is still in the distance.”

I guess your analysis speaks for itself. In relation to my dad I think it has to do with my feelings of having lacked proper life education from my dad. Being a boy, your dad is naturally the one that you look for guidance and example. I think masculinity also is about self confidence and not always listening to what others tell you should do or should think. It’s about sometimes putting your foot down and believing in yourself and in your choices. Although my dad was pretty cool and crazy at times when my mother was around he didn’t really manage to stay this same person. He wasn’t the man in the relationship and my mom had too much influence on him, which made him lose this persona he was projecting towards us and that we liked. I often feel like I have been missing a lot life’s lesson that my dad could have provided and that other boys did receive. The boy in my dream, my dream projection of myself, is a boy that has incorporated all these lessons that my dad never taught me (by example). He indeed is proud of who he is. I guess this guy really is just a dream. But I can feel him becoming more of reality every day!

“A classroom point to experiences learned {or leaning experiences}. You are in the same house {father or father's family}. The girl in your dream probably points to emotional aspects, your anima. These emotions need to be revealed {clown can represent hidden emotions} because they put you in a position where you feel like a clown.”

This could point to the process of revealing my issues with my father and our relationship.

“Trees represent the power of personal growth. Running from tree to tree suggests you are searching within yourself as well as in your conscious world for those things that will provide personal growth. Protection issues are an issue {look to your 'father's family}. The tennis court with Senera Williams may be revealing underlying issues. “

Yes I am looking for personal growth (hence my posts and me getting in a therapy). I often have not felt protected by my dad as I wrote before.

“Here is what a tennis court could represent:
Tennis represents changes and the need to actively assert yourself. You may be feeling the need to prove yourself time and time again. Alternatively, you may be unable to commit to a situation or decision. You are literally going back and forth between two choices. Since one of the score in tennis is denoted as "love", then the game of tennis may be a metaphor for a romantic relationship or a courtship. Court-A situation or circumstance in your life is giving your much distress and worry”

“You are literally going back and forth between two choices. “I think this sentence really says it all. I am in a process of finding the right thing to study and thinking about where my future lies. I feel a constant struggle of following the advice of my dad or doing the things that I want, but lack confidence for.

"I include the above because I sense there are more than one possible applications that may apply. The childhood town would likely be addressing your childhood environment. Senera Williams would point to feminine "shadow' aspects which in my experience come about in times of important changes in life. Walking along would suggest you are indeed engaged in these changes, consciously or partially conscious of your participation.”

I think this is also really true. As I stated before, I feel like the shadowy parts of me want me to take the direction that my dad also was pointing me towards. I often feel like he wants me to live the life that he always wanted to have. But as I am becoming more conscious about these aspects, thanks to your tremendous work, I feel like I am taking more distance from his dreams and more towards my own real dreams and the real me.

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Hello. I remembered that I had forgotten to react to the last part of your analysis. So here it is!

J: “This part may be speaking to desires as well as a union of opposites {the old colleague-past experiences that influence you and your personality}. There may also be actual experiences involved. But overall it is addressing different aspects of your psyche and the union of opposites {conflicting emotions} would be to do with these. In the end you 'close the curtains', pushing the experiences into the unconscious so you won't have to deal with them consciously.”

F: Seeing this in the perspective of the whole dream and my feelings towards these men, this part probably deals with the same underlying theme (self confidence) that at the time of the dream was being repressed and therefore not really a conscious and acknowledged conflict. Thanks for helping me letting me see this dynamic! I am know really curious to know where in my childhood lies the root for this emotional neurosis.

With kind reagrds,

Fabian

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Hey Jerry,

Got some more dreams (3 in total) for you. All together it's quite a bit. I hope that doesn't bother you too much!! Thanks in advance for your work. I always look forward to it! Here's how the dreams went:

I am in a truck with my parents. We are transporting bricks. We drive to a museum with Chinese art. We drop the bricks in a big hall. We think that the bricks are art. Than we drive away from the museum on a very narrow road that goes uphill. Suddenly we are in China. Things happen here. There are kids and I am a kid. I walk towards somewhere and come back on what it seems a forgotten and secret road. Giant sticky things are lying at the side of the road. The landscape reminds me of the golf course from my childhood and the land is dry and almost barren. I have a discussion with my parents whether the sun is the sun or an eye. I see birds. Next thing I am talking to a Chinese guide. We stand at the end of an open corridor on what it seems to be a cruise ship. He says something about my sneakers. They are white and he says there is something wrong with them. Then the guide tells me that I am flying to Malyasia. I see the map of China and as I am thinking that I wanted to go more north into the country I look to the map. I see an icon of an airplane flying and landing on the place of the map where Malyasia is. I see my brother that lives in my country of birth. I start to sing ‘Time To Say Goodbye’.

I am in Amsterdam and I’m in distress. It feels like I am doing everything wrong and everybody knows. I walk through the city to get to my brother. I descend a school through the use of an elevator. I ran into people that I don’t want to see. As I walk through the city I have the sense that I arrive at the back of the city. Here the roads have changed into a kind of scaffolding. I meet my brother. He is very drunk. I want him to come with me but he is upset. I manage to have him come with me but we are being chased. There is someone with a futuristic weapon that blasts energy beams. We hide in a pub. There my brother wants to drink more. I drag him with me through the streets. The streets are busy and narrow. The people remind me of 13th century Europeans. The women have round cheeks and wear these white little hats. Everything gives me a “common people” feeling to me. I am afraid that they might take my brother away and that I don’t succeed in saving him. What frustrates me is that I get the sense my brother doesn’t want to be saved and that he deliberately is trying to escape my influence. The day ends. We end up at a big family. They welcome us like we are heroes. They prepare a bed for us. But this is not a normal bed. Something nice happens: as we were supposed to sleep on separate mattresses at the outside rim of what it seems to be one huge mattress where everybody sleeps on, the villagers connect the mattresses with the big one. I feel much respected. We sleep and we leave happily.

I am in a mall with my parents. My adoptive mother is trying some kind of massaging chair. She is also trying out some kind of glove that comes with it. It also massages and it looks like a robot hand. It has typing machine buttons on the outside of it. My adoptive dad is there too. I am trying to convince him that we should buy this for my mother because of her rheumatics. My father is hesitant. I feel like we both know that we are being watched. It’s a stressful situation. I’m in a race with people. I feel like I have to prove a point but everyone is against me. I live in my house and I have a new roommate. He is not nice. It seems like he and his father don’t like me a bit. I am in a classroom. There is a voting going on who is going to be elected for something. I want to be elected but I feel like I have no chance. Everyone hates me, especially this one girl. She starts a dance battle. They all want to see me fail. I am predicting something about the future and everyone thinks I’m wrong. I am talking to the teacher but he pretends not understanding anything that I am saying. I feel very frustrated.

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