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tub and mother's house

I had two dreams about a guy from my past. In the first dream, I was in a large auditorium or some place public. I domn't know if it was military based or bioterrorism. As I was walking up the stair aisle, I passed a man walking down in the opposite direction who was pointing a tub toward my face. This tub looked liek it had barf in it or he was sick. I was afraid that he was contagious so I wanted others to evacuate. The guy in my past was sitting in the back paying attention to me. I wasn't sure if the tub had barf in it or why the man was almost handing it to me. After I walked behind the auditorim to get away, the guy from my past followed. He was paying attention what to do, but I wasn't sure. I can't really remember the rest of the details of this dream.

In the next dream, this same guy from my past was in my mother's bedroom of my childhood home sitting down near the back watching me. I can't remember what I was showing my mother in the dream.

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Re: tub and mother's house

Anonymous,
This is a tough one because of the possibilities to do with past experiences. I do believe the dream is addressing past experiences, something that may have involved 'revolting experience' {barf/vomit} and may have caused conscious attitudes because of the experience. There may also be repressed emotions involved, or something you have repressed into your unconscious related to some past experience {man walking down in opposite direction}. The tub is key to what this might be and although it is symbolic its exact meaning is unclear. Let's look at the possible meaning of the tub.

A tub is circular which could represent wholeness {circle}. But I don't see where that fits other than all dreams are addressing a need/desire for wholeness. Toward the face could represent emotional confrontation {within yourself} but I sense it is something more than that. Something circular pointing toward your face {face could symbolize the ego self/persona}. But this tub contained something revolting {barf/vomit}. An experience in your past that was revolting and involving a circular tub directed toward your face and or persona {it could be both}. The barf could also represent something you reject as revolting. And this tub contained barf {rejected/revolting} which caused a need to be evacuated/rejected/removed because it might be contagious. I sense one aspect related to this as a possible mental attitude you have developed that needs to be removed to be able to find wholeness. But there could be another possibility {along with the developed attitude} that is more straightforward. A round object pointing toward your face that contained something revolting and could be contagious. Freud would no doubt see this as the penis and oral copulation. This should be considered as a possibility. The rejected aspects could have caused a mental attitude to develop that would involve oral sex and possibly those who engage {or an engagement} in such acts. If this fits then it would most likely be one aspect of the dream message. In short, if this is true it would point to a past experience involving oral sex, something you find/found revolting and may have caused an attitude toward oral sex and possibly those {gay men} who engage in it. Or an attitude that oral sex is dirty/revolting and something you would not engage in. There is the possibility it is something you find revolting but engage in the act anyway.
Note: I can not name a particular experience when analyzing a dream, I can only outline the possibilities. I look for patterns of emotional behavior that fit into a narrative that makes sense. I offer the above {oral sex} because it is a possibility {Freud would say it is the only possibility}.

The second dream goes a bit further in when the experience may have occurred. Because it is only a remnant of the whole dream it leaves a lot to be answered as to exactly what the images you named might really suggest/mean. Usually a childhood home reference would point to a childhood experience, especially if it is in the opening part of the dream. The mother's bedroom could be symbolic or it could be literal. If you put the two dreams together it could point to a possibility {and only a possibility} you saw something as a child that occurred in your mother's bedroom involving the same 'guy' from the first dream. But that is naming an exact experience and taking liberties I seldom take. The first dream doesn't name your mother as a part of the emotional issue {dreams are about the emotions} so it could be a separate experience. Only you can know for sure and if there is something repressed you may have to do some deep exploration to find it. Below is what I get from analyzing the images/actions. I left the mother's bedroom open since it is hard to define from such a short narrative {it could symbolize something you want to keep private/bedroom}.

Let me know your thoughts and if there is anything you recognize that fits.

-auditorium-expressing aspects that affect the whole self
-military/bioterrorism-emotional repression/within oneself/family member
-walking up stair aisle-mental recognition
-man walking down opposite direction-repressing something from past
-tub toward face-a cylinder/emotional confrontation
-barf {vomit}-need to reject or discard an aspect of your life that is revolting/something revolting
-he was sick-emotional conflict
-contagious/others to evacuate-emotional attitude that needs to be removed
-guy in past-masculine aspect/past experience
-in back paying attention to me-unconscious aspects/conscious attention
-tub with barf/almost handing it to me-confronting emotions to do with revolting experience
-walked behind auditorium to get away-pushed emotions that are conscious displayed in attitudes
-guy from past followed-past experience followed by conscious attitude
-paying attention what to do-displaying conscious attitudes related to past experience
-not sure-confused

-guy from past-masculine aspect from past {real guy experience?}
-mother's bedroom-
-childhood home-childhood experience/childhood innocence
-back watching me-unconscious aspects/conscious attention
-showing my mother-

Jerry




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Re: tub and mother's house

The tub was small more shaped like comma than a circle. I was confused if the man meant to point it at me or not. The barf could be because I find this man from my past revolting? I also defined him as a dick or said his face was one because that was the definition of him. Does the dream or symbols make more sense now? Or how would it be interpreted now?

In the other dream, I was showing my mom how to do something. I think I was was straightening something out. I don't remember if it was clothes on a rack or what it was or if it was even that.

If it helps, this man from my past ( i knew him when I was younger) makes me feel worthless if that's the subconcious thought I need to discard?

Re: tub and mother's house

Anonymous,
The changes may make a difference. Images can have a definite meaning and a circular tub could mean something different from one that looks like a comma. I'll take another look at the dreams in the morning. The additional info about the mother dream may provide more insights.

Jerry

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Re: tub and mother's house

My initial interest falls to the way your awareness seems to be pulled to the background. Despite what is occuring, your attention is drawn to this figure who you recognize from your past. If this were my dream I'd look at the connection first. I'd ask myself the following questions:
How did this relationship end?
In waking life, am I hanging on to him or is he still attached to me?

I'll say this on a personal level, often when my own attention is diverted in dreams it is an indication that I need to release something -that the energy is still impacting me somehow. However, in some cases, I find that it is difficult to release it unless I have a more consciously integrated idea of "what" it is. In this case, you seem to know the person.

Another question I might ask myself would be:

What was my initial reaction upon waking... disgust, anger, fear, confusion, panic, adoration? This is usually a huge kick off for me when it comes to dream meanings.

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Re: tub and mother's house

In past dreams about this man (not that I often dream about him), he has not paid attention to me or looked at me like he was in these dreams. When I woke up, I thought these dreams were different because he was paying attention to me or maybe what I had to say unlike in real life past, which he did not care what I said or how he negatively impacted me. So, I was wondering if this dream was a message that he is willing to listen to me now or stop acting in a harassive manner towards me. Not that I desire to talk to him. I mean I hoped to talk to him to resolve things with him in the past to better heal from the experience with him. But now I have no desire to talk to him because the the talk would probably be a waste or I would feel worse for having the chance to talk to him without resolving anything due to his insensitivity. I would rather not talk to him if that were the case. Some time ago, I decided to just let things be or not try to heal things with him. Hence, it would be me not paying attention or ignoring him in real life.

Re: tub and mother's house

Anonymous,
So you did know this man in your waking life? It is important for an analyst to know if it is a know person or an unknown person since a known person could point to actual experiences with that person and an unknown person would leave open who the person is {perhaps repressed}. An unknown person also could point to inner masculine aspects besides addressing issues of an experience with someone you do not remember. These are important aspects of being able to properly analyze a dream. The tub's shape, knowing whether the man is known in real life.

Having said that, and even with the new info about the tub' shape {a comma is something that appears to be 'limp'}, the info about your 'feeling of being worthless' associated with him points to an experience where he made you feel this way. The first dream seems to be addressing issues of your personality and attitudes because of these experiences. Physical/psychological abuse{especially at an early age} will create unconscious energies that motivate and dominate your personality in later life. The first dream does seem to be more about that with elements of the causes also. The images on this level {all dream images/dreams have at least two meanings/applications} would point to the feelings of 'feeling worthless'. And there are images that could point to sexual aspects, the tub {even if limp} and the barfing and the 'evacuation'. You called him a 'dick' which could be an unconscious representation of an actual sexual experience.

As for the second dream and 'straightening' something out. That could be addressing issues with your mother related to the experiences which make you feel worthless. It could also point to sexual aspects, straight penis into a limp position {and a reason for barfing}. I get the impression you know a little more than you have presented about actual experiences but that is OK since I want you to give info you feel comfortable with. To help understand the dream and whether my interpretation holds merit, if you provide what you see that fits then that will do.

Jerry

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Re: tub and mother's house

I might be a little slow, but I am not exactly sure what is meant by "It could also point to sexual aspects, straight penis into a limp position {and a reason for barfing}." We never had sex or I don't know what was going through his mind. I wouldn't be surprised if he told his friends I was the type who would chop off his you know what.

I'm not sure what I would straighten out with my mom in relation to how he made me feel. Lately, we have been discussing my niece's breakup with her boyfriend...how sad it makes her feel the way he is treating her by ignoring her with his new girlfriend. My sister and my niece are feeling very depressed over this. I just think if only they knew the hell I went through with this man in my dream. What she is going through is nothing compared to what I went through. He tarnished my reputation spreading false sexual rumors and anything bad he could think of.

I guess I was wondering if this dream had anything to do with him in present real life like did he change or mature? Or is this dream just about my thoughts?

Re: tub and mother's house

Anonymous,
There it is. The false sexual rumors fit with the images/actions in the dreams. The emotional conflict you have is about those experiences. It doesn't have to have happened {actual sex}, the rumors and emotional experience involving what he did {which I do not know} is what you have a conflict with. Dreams are about the emotions and more specifically those emotions that are in conflict. There is another meaning or meanings to the images, all images have at least two {this is a Jungian concept I have experienced with many dreams}. But the images/actions in thsi dream point to a specific pattern. And they point to the conflicting emotional experiences. If the experiences possess strong energies they will be a part of your deep psyche until they are resolved. That is why you have dreams about this man with the images/actions a symbolic reference to the emotional conflicts to do with him.

Is this man still in your life? Did the events cause emotional 'trauma'? Apparently it did, by your statements and the dream images/actions. My task is not to accuse or even name the emotional experience{s} the dream is trying to help you resolve. My job is outline what the possibilities of the dream images/actions {they have a language of symbol and metaphor} and let the dreamer connect the dots. This experience is not only a part of your conscious mind, it has left an even deeper impression on your unconscious. It is an emotional issue that is unresolved because of the emotional toll he placed on you. If you have been depressed this could be a part of the reason for that {but only a part}. Of course with only parts of the dream to work with, knowing the full extent of the emotional energies is not possible. Unless I have a complete dream with exact {or nearly exact} description I am handicapped. Words matter when analyzing a dream because they have a specific meaning/application {at least two}. A wrong word can lead away from the true message. It is the patterns that make the whole story come to life and the words/images/actions put together paint the true picture. The dream contains sexual themes. It doesn't have had to have been actual sex involved to have these.

From what I get from the dream and what you say about the experience, along with the brevity of the dream I believe the 'rumors' are at the center of the conflict. Not an actual sexual act but in your mind what this man may have made up/said to 'tarnish' your reputation. Depending on your personality and its foundations {other emotional issues, we all have several} how it affects you is how strong the emotions will be. There is where the conflict 'lies', the lies he told and the affect they have had on you emotionally.
Does that make sense?

Jerry

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Re: tub and mother's house

No, this man is not in my life now. But he lives near me. That means it is possible to bump into him like I have several times in the past. In fact, I am afraid to go to stores or places nearby because I might bump into him. Or this is why I do most of my shopping online even if I can grab it quick at a local store. I want no further contact with him. How do I release this or resolve this in my psyche if I am unable to resolve this conflict with him? How do I get rid of this strong energy?

As for the dream in my mother's bedroom, I have preferred to keep this matter private or it's just too draining or too much time has passed to think about it anymore.

Re: tub and mother's house

*bump

There were a lot of posts after I wrote this one so it probably got lost in the bunch.

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