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A Chat With Jordan Peterson

Hi.

I had a dream a couple of weeks ago. I can't clearly remember the details of the first part of the dream, but I will try to write as much as I can (vaguely) remember. Basically, I was walking about during day time in a white building complex as if I was going somewhere. I was not alone in that building. There were other people walking about too, minding their own business as if they've got things to do. The building looked like some government/public building.

Then comes the second part of the dream, which is much clearer. After coming out from that building complex, walking towards where I parked my car by the roadside, it was getting dark in the evening and it was starting to rain. There were people walking by the roadside in the rain, and there were cars passing by just like any other ordinary day. Then I bumped into Jordan Peterson. He had his car (a jeep? Don't know if he owns a jeep in real life) parked beside mine. He was standing outside of his car while waiting for the engine to warm up. We had a small chat. Then Jordan asked me to find what's in the book that I was holding. I opened it up and found a part in it but I told him that I couldn't understand it. He asked me, where is it. I told him, it's in page 39. Jordan opened up his copy of the book and checks it. Then he told me, "if you want to win, you'd really want to win it". I replied, "I don't get it." then Jordan looked straight at me seriously and explained, "if you sort of give in (the vibe I'm getting here is 'to fate / outcomes / circumstances'), you will still win but on the losing end". I became confused and Jordan gave me a serious look with a little nöd as if he's implying, yeah, you've heard me.. kind of look. Before I could ask him to further explain it, I woke up from the dream.

I woke up feeling confused. What does it mean? What does that quote means? How is it possible to win and yet be on the losing end? I've tried to Google the quote but to no success. I think this is by far some of the most detailed dreams I've ever had. Also prior to that dream, it has been quite some time since I last watched Jordan's videos. Strange that he popped up in my dream,and for the first time.

I hope your analysis of the dream is not based mystical / esoteric methods. Thanks for reading.

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Re: A Chat With Jordan Peterson

TBH,
It will be later in the week before I will be able to provide a full analysis of your dream. In the meanwhile if the type of book in your dream was mentioned that would be helpful. Also, is there anything you have in common with Jordan Peterson {besides reading his books}? He has health issues including severe depression. In your dream it is getting dark and starting to rain which can point to the similar issues. Bumping into Jordan Peterson {a clinical psychologist who is very familiar with Jungian psyche} may be relevant to your own psychology.

As for the meaning of the quote. Peterson said, "if you want to win, you'd really want to win it". 'Win it' may be something to ponder. What could 'it' be? "you don't get it" could point to something in your unconscious {dreams are about unconscious energies} you don't understand. Psychology attempts to get to things you don't understand.

As for the quote, "if you sort of give in (the vibe I'm getting here is 'to fate / outcomes / circumstances'), you will still win but on the losing end". What is it in your life you could or need to give in to? You may be on the losing end of something in the short term but in the long run you will win. Psychologically speaking how would that fit in your life?

A full analysis will help in understanding the dream. If the questions I present have relevance knowing how they fit will be most helpful.

Jerry

Age & Gender & Location {Required}: 70 Altoona, Fl

Re: A Chat With Jordan Peterson

Gerald M Gifford
TBH,
It will be later in the week before I will be able to provide a full analysis of your dream. In the meanwhile if the type of book in your dream was mentioned that would be helpful. Also, is there anything you have in common with Jordan Peterson {besides reading his books}? He has health issues including severe depression. In your dream it is getting dark and starting to rain which can point to the similar issues. Bumping into Jordan Peterson {a clinical psychologist who is very familiar with Jungian psyche} may be relevant to your own psychology.

As for the meaning of the quote. Peterson said, "if you want to win, you'd really want to win it". 'Win it' may be something to ponder. What could 'it' be? "you don't get it" could point to something in your unconscious {dreams are about unconscious energies} you don't understand. Psychology attempts to get to things you don't understand.

As for the quote, "if you sort of give in (the vibe I'm getting here is 'to fate / outcomes / circumstances'), you will still win but on the losing end". What is it in your life you could or need to give in to? You may be on the losing end of something in the short term but in the long run you will win. Psychologically speaking how would that fit in your life?

A full analysis will help in understanding the dream. If the questions I present have relevance knowing how they fit will be most helpful.

Jerry
Hi Jerry,

Thanks for the response. I'll try my best to address the things you've pointed out.

"In the meanwhile if the type of book in your dream was mentioned that would be helpful."
The book that I saw in my dream was a (maybe a cloth over) hardcover type of book in black/dark brown colour. Not awfully big, just a regular sized book. I remember flipping through the pages when I was asked to see what's in the book. It was full of words, and I saw the page number that it was over 230 something pages. Strange to see such small detail. Jordan had the same copy of book too.

"Also, is there anything you have in common with Jordan Peterson {besides reading his books}? He has health issues including severe depression. In your dream it is getting dark and starting to rain which can point to the similar issues."
Now, this is a bit tough. Obviously I do not know the man personally, and if there's anything, I think he's a man in his own league. So it never occur to me to attempt to compare myself with him. Haha. I wouldn't say that I have any serious health issues, but I do have allergic issues that causes sensative skin, itchiness, scars of that sort. Something that I just have to live with it. As for depression, I wouldn't want to throw around with that term lightly but I've been dealing with a couple of things in the past years (incidents and mistakes) that has made me unhappy, feeling useless like a piece of s***, aimless, maybe even mood killer or sometimes in a state of limbo and I would just want to disappear. These feelings do occur every now and then when those thoughts of what happened in the past comes up in my mind. Whether if that is depression or not, is something I wouldn't want to come to a quick conclusion. If there is anything in common with Jordan Peterson that would be our high regard of the bible.

"Bumping into Jordan Peterson {a clinical psychologist who is very familiar with Jungian psyche} may be relevant to your own psychology"
Perhaps you mind expanding on that, like in what sense?

"Peterson said, "if you want to win, you'd really want to win it". 'Win it' may be something to ponder. What could 'it' be? "you don't get it" could point to something in your unconscious {dreams are about unconscious energies} you don't understand. Psychology attempts to get to things you don't understand."
That is something that I would have to ponder.. There are things that I don't understand. Those things that has happened in the past that I've mentioned in the previous point.

"What is it in your life you could or need to give in to? You may be on the losing end of something in the short term but in the long run you will win. Psychologically speaking how would that fit in your life?"
Interesting that you see it in that way. I thought "if you sort of give in" would imply that I've been letting things slip out (to give in) to chance or outcomes with inaction. And if I were to follow that train of thought, then the second part of the quote becomes sort of a mystery to me. Almost like an unknown warning.

"You may be on the losing end of something in the short term but in the long run you will win."
The difficult part to grasp that sentence is that both elements of winning and losing happen at the same time in the outcome, "you will still win but on the losing end". Instead it's not losing something now and winning later in the long run. And the question is how does the second part of the quote connects with the first part of the quote and how does the second quote presents itself as an explanation to the first quote to form a coherent sense.

Other additional info that might be of help is I'm an infp person. Maybe that could influence my perception or attitude towards how I view things of things.

Thanks.

Age & Gender & Location {Required}: 35, male, Malaysia

Re: A Chat With Jordan Peterson

TBH,
I appreciate the added info. The more I know about your personal life {you feel comfortable in sharing} helps with my analysis. It will be tomorrow before I am able to analyze the dream {I do so in detail, interpreting by sentence and the individual images, actions and symbols}. It can take several hours to do this.

Jerry

Age & Gender & Location {Required}: 70 Altoona, Fl

Re: A Chat With Jordan Peterson

Hi Jerry,

Sure, do take your time.

Thanks!

Age & Gender & Location {Required}: 35, male, Malaysia


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