Rose,
Look at those people in your dreams, unknown/unnamed, as aspects of who you are. Then compare the dream {the symbols interpreted and looked at as metaphors of your life} to your waking life, and in many cases your unconscious life, and you will begin to better understand what the dream message is. And understand who you are.

There is always a deeper meaning to the symbols. The executive employee is you and for a reason you are mad at yourself {it may have to do with something other than the training, perhaps to do with deeper issues in personality or foundations of your life}. The guardian that went out the door is also likely to be a part of yourself {unless there was a real person that left, someone who took 'care' of you in your waking life}.

Changes in life can start the process of remembering your dreams. The important thing is to interpret these dreams and see what they are telling you about yourself and your life. Some things will correspond with your current waking life experiences. Others will address deeper issues of the emotions. Dreams are therapeutic in they try to help you resolve all emotional conflicts. Dreams are about our emotions.

When you are ready post a complete dream{s} and let's see what they have to say.

Jerry

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What I am really thinking about now is the statement you made about my having to make decisions/changes that require great strength. This is very true and I am thinking hard about this. It's how I go about these changes that I am at odds with. I am pressed to find a more spiritual nature inside of myself because that's all I can do. There are so many sides to me that it's hard to focus on just one aspect that I can 'go with' to move ahead. I can relate to almost every one of those men and women in the dreams. hmmmm...ok I'm getting some things.

To clarify: The executive woman was a person I saw sitting in the living room. She was not a dream. I changed my mind about her when I thought she had gone out the other door and thought well...perhaps she was not an executive but a guardian. Later I asked my friend who the heck was 'that woman in the living room' and she said there was no one there. I'm really glad I didn't try and talk to her because then everyone would have thought I was nuts...not just an angry employee.

I called my Mom's minister and spoke to his wife who had seen her grandmother after her grandmother had died. She told me to pay attention to my surroundings and watch for her. I have complete faith that the minister and his wife and very honest. But I also think the woman in white may have been there to let me know I needed to report what was going on. I reported it.

Yet, I had the car dream and then bam...all those other dreams. I know this is long...sorry.
Here is the last dream I had in detail.

I am standing in the middle of nothing...maybe on a cloud or some earth that was in the universe. There are a bunch of us there and we are being taught (by an invisible male who I feel is God) how to move through levels of change by breathing and meditation. Our goal is to find peace from the pain and trust that we must open up.
So I begin wondering if it's even possible for the soul to ever die...seems impossible to me and I start to spiral across the horizon in some kind of tube of color...I get closer to something each time I breath and then I ask the voice if there is such a thing as hell and that I don't want to have to deal with it at all. The voice tells me that in order to reach our goal we all have to go through the fire (hell) but he reminds me to breath and trust. I begin spiraling through fire and it's beautiful. I am almost to the point where I think it will hurt and I see I am not ready to let go and I wake up.
My thoughts on this are well...yes I believe that and maybe I'm closer to finding a more spiritual way of seeing things.
It has really helped me to write this. Thank you for taking so much time with me
Rose

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Rose,
Let's see if we can sort this out. I need to get clear in my mind what is waking life experiences and what is dream.

First the spiritual search. Since the spiritual aspect is a 'feminine' quality the possibility part of the lesbian dream experience has to do with that. The 'executive woman' could also be addressing those higher qualities of the psyche. 'Living' {living room} life in the spiritual realm is something you are searching for and a deep emotional experience. The woman, a part of you, would be a guardian if and when you discover a spiritual concept that fits.
As to not speaking to her, actions in your waking life may fit with that. Anger is not a spiritual quality.

Again there is the 'feminine' aspect related to your spiritual search. You spoke with the minister's wife and not the minister. This could be a 'realization' of the feminine power as a superior quality to the masculine {in Jungian psyche, and in my spiritual philosophy, the feminine aspects are superior, god is subservient to the inner goddess}. She is honest, as is the dream psyche. The dead grandmother may suggest this aspect is not being realized. By searching your 'inner surroundings' you will will find her.

This could also be addressing questions about sexuality. Insert sexuality in place of spirituality and it could fit. But just as there are questions about your spirituality there would be questions about sexuality.
again I direct you to your sexual attitude throughout life. A gay person is born that way, they do not evolve into it. If you are a lesbian now those feelings would have strongly manifested throughout your life. It is not uncommon for a man or woman to explore their sexuality because of particular reasons questioning life itself. Failed relationships with the opposite sex could make one believe they were 'meant' to be different.

Yet your dream is focusing on god, the male quality. That could have to do with faith and early life indoctrination. This is not to disqualify that concept, it is to support it by realizing the inner world of spirit has another quality that is as powerful. In our culture the feminine aspects is degraded to a lesser quality not only spiritually but culturally.

This masculine god in your dream may be speaking to qualities needed to navigate life {every female has masculine qualities, every male feminine qualities}. As for going through fire/hell, that is what we do in life. This human life is our hell. The task is to live life. Life can be beautiful when you discover a 'balance' that supports a harmonious life. That could be the 'lesbian' aspect of your dreams. Growing up with faith in the masculine {where is god when you need him} with the spiritual concept of the feminine. The first, growing up with god, is an outer experience, the second is an inner experience.
A true example would be Jesus as a balance of the masculine and feminine. Jesus was a male, masculine. Yet he lived purely from the feminine psyche {loving, caring, forgiving, serving}.
On the other hand god was purely masculine {in all Western religious concepts and many of the Eastern as well}.

Note: Forgive me for using god with a small 'g'. Having grown up in the Baptist and C of C church and since having learned these were too restrictive in their concepts, I no longer give the god of Abraham, or any other god as a matter of fact, as the viable force in my life. Instead of faith and dogma I simply try to live my life WWJD. Deeds are more powerful than faith.
It could be said I have 'issues' with the masculine identity of god. I also had a father whom I had big issues. But I believe I have sorted both out and I am comfortable with both positions.

So where are you in your search for your sexuality identity? Is the 'lesbian experience' in your dream a recent occurrence or has it been a part of who you are all along? Answer that question and it should clear up the sexuality identity crisis.

Jerry

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Hi Jerry,
I needed to make some amends to other folks who may be around before I posted under my actual name. Disappearing for 3 years wasn't very nice.

To the dreams: Are you saying that the person I saw was a waking dream person? It seems you are approaching waking life experiences as you do dreams? That would put a different twist on the woman I saw...or on everything.

Carlos Castenada also spoke about this (a warrior with intent/clarity and focus.)
I do not care about capitalizing at all. I do it out of respect for others.

I've been thinking about my sexuality and I am not sure. I can pretty much go either way and my focus is usually on how genuine people are. For the most part, I'm not interested either way right now.

I would say in reference to spirituality, the last dream I had three years ago, was about myself and Jesus in his tomb. He was weeping and said " where is my father and why has he forsaken me? I'm going to be crucified and it's going to hurt" I sat with him and comforted him while he wept. After that was my not remembering stage began, but I made a Jesus doll. I've also had many dreams around different goddess figures. It really put some things into perspective when you identified for me, the difference between god and Jesus.

I think what I have been able to take the most from you'r feedback is that I need to make decisions that require courage and strength and letting go of anger to be more peaceful inside. I really appreciate your down to earth responses. I also think I need to do body work and 'stretch myself' in these ways.

Also: I remember you back to the dream doctor then to Toko-Pa's fishbowl. It seems to me you are really changing and open about your own experiences which I think is very wonderful. Glad you have sorted out what perhaps kept you from being so much more open. Just my opinion.
Thank you so much!
Leslie

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Rose,
A quick reply, and then more later on.

The woman would not likely be a waking life person but an aspect of your own psyche. It could have to do with your sexuality, that sexual identity that is the real you. What aspects of yourself are you looking for? Spiritual? Sexual? These would likely be the woman/women in your dreams.

As for my days at Dream Central and Fishbowl. I have matured tremendously since those early days in my education with dreams. And yes I have changed a lot of my approach. Not my Jungian point of views, that is now ingrained and something I have complete confidence {as I did in those early days}. From my experiences working with dreams at the Dream Forum I have seen first hand that Jung's concepts do work. Having interpreted more than 3000 dreams and with more than 15,000 responses and posts I have more confidence than ever that Jung got it right. Having the benefit of responses to my interpretations I know what fits and what does not. Most do fit, especially in the past few years where I have developed my intuitive senses {something we all possess and which most can develop with effort}. Recent new science almost always supports Jung and knowing all that can be known about the science is important.
Not I don't keep an open mind. My intent is to learn all I can about the deeper psyche. Just image what more Jung could have contributed if he were alive today, the new science in neurology and brain science providing clues to the deep psyche. Something he never knew and would have fit with his philosophies is the fact that the part of the brain that controls emotions also is the same part of the brain that controls dreams. Thus Jung's contention that dreams are about our emotional lives has relevance to the science of the physical body. And this is just one new piece of new science that supports Jung.

It is not in praise of the man as it is his concepts and philosophies.

And about opening up about myself and my life. Having the experiences in life that I have had lends to my being able to understand others plight in life. If someone can learn from my mistakes then opening up is worth the effort. It is also self therapy. When you 'lay on a couch' and 'lay open' your life what you are doing is opening up to yourself. Bringing up what is beneath the surface is what most of us are afraid to do. Discovering first, and then becoming that true person that we are is what 'Individuation' seeks to achieve. Dreams are a direct link to the unconscious where that true self can be discovered. Learning and understanding the language of dreams {symbol & metaphor} is how we get in learn to understand our true selves. The one common thread in any approach to successful dream interpretation is the use of symbol and metaphor as the concept in interpreting dreams. Jung just happens to have the best and most complete approach. Plus his psychology is a true path to wholeness and a harmonious life.

Jerry

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